Ronnie Landis: Greetings and aloha. Welcome to another episode of the life mastery podcast, where we discuss all things, health, wealth, wisdom, and spirituality. My name is Ronnie Landis, and this is an incredible podcast. Really, really excited to share this one with you. We’ve been a bit backlogged in the last couple months, I guess, with all kinds of podcasts that I still am in the process of editing and getting ready to upload for your listening pleasure.

And just so many things have been going on in the multidimensional spirit gym of life. So many things that I will not get into just for the sake of time. Because I really want to get into this episode with Dr. Steven Young. But suffice to say, life has been very, very full. My neuromuscular release therapy practice has been extremely full.

It’s almost been hard to get on my phone and type out. An email, let alone a social media post. And also I’ve been very delayed in getting these podcast episodes out because my fingers and my hands have been preoccupied with working on therapy clients almost nonstop. So. I have a little bit of break and I wanted to get over my procrastination tendency when life gets really full.

And I want to get these episodes out for all of you. So thank you for your continued patience. And here we go. So this episode with Dr. Steven Young is incredible. Um, Steven Young is a very good friend. We connected many, many months ago through multiple mutual friends. And we’ve actually worked together in.

One of his retreats and we have a number of other upcoming retreats that I’m going to be Parabonding with him. These are his Transformational activation retreats that he calls it and he’ll share a little bit more about what the nature of his work is in this conversation Steven is just a really incredible human being.

He’s a metaphysician. He is a doctor physical therapy expert And also an incredible entrepreneur supports many other business leaders, entrepreneurs, um, you know, just change makers in the world dial in their physical health, mental health, immense emotional health, and also their spiritual acuity, their North Star, their purpose in their vision for Why they’re here on the planet, what they’re here to do and how to become effective as a whole and integrated human being and executing their Dharma.

Essentially. That’s a good way of explaining Steven. So, yeah, there’s a lot, a lot in this podcast. This was a very powerful conversation, very therapeutic. And if you’re in a place where you are looking for the magic, you’re looking for the I don’t know. You’re looking for the rainbow from the clouds or the storm that you may be experiencing in life.

And you’re looking for this silver lining. You’re looking for the magic and miracle of life. That’s what this podcast is for. And I can’t think of anyone better to illuminate. the miracle of life and also the practical hermetic wisdom of how we can take the non physical and turn it into physical manifestation, basically turning your dreams into reality.

So without further ado, let me introduce my good friend and colleague, Dr. Steven Young. Enjoy. Dr. Steven Young, welcome to the Life Mastery podcast. 

Dr. Steven Young: Amazing. I’m so excited to, to dive in. 

Ronnie Landis: Yeah, me too. So we’ve had a few adventures together in the last couple months. It’s been really great getting to know you and, um, just being exposed to you as a human being, but also just your mastery and the multidimensional nature of physical, mental, emotional, spiritual health and development.

And, uh, before we dive into a lot of things that we’re going to get into, how would you describe yourself at this stage in life? Like, what is it that you actually do? 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, yeah, when people ask me, you know, who am I, I usually say I’m a Steven and Steven does a lot of things these days anything from Direct spiritual missions, you know, I’ve taken people to Egypt, Machu Picchu, Damanhur, different key locations.

We’re about to go to Mount Kailash this year. Essentially, what I’ve learned is that instead of doing greater good to generate money and then use the money to help even more greater good, we can actually do these spiritual missions that immediately energetically impacts all of humanity. Right, so that’s sort of one aspect.

Um, I do host, um, You know, sort of small gatherings where I embed, uh, hermetics into people essentially, which I’m sure we’ll get into. And what I found is that if a person can take on the codes and the embodiment of the hermetic laws, they now have the capability to rewrite. reality 

Right instead of trying to play the game.

They can actually code the game to the way they want it Right that um, I also advise certain companies Um from a very high level strategic perspective and guiding them and their actions or their investments more towards You know what we would consider serving all life and then I do steward two companies of my own one being immortal that I founded and Just have incredible partners that have taken it to its incredible heights State that it’s in the chamber and everything and another company vividness, which is really more of a physical product info product company where we’ve sold 100, 000 plus different programs on healing and restoring your own self 

Ronnie Landis: got it.

Okay, there’s a lot of threads for us to travel into. Yeah. Um, I’d like to start with. So you’re, what’s your original background? So I know that you, you have a program for healing back pain. Yep. And that’s not a trivial thing. That’s actually a really, really important thing, especially if someone’s listening right now and they’ve been struggling with back pain.

That’s probably something they should know about. Um, what was your original background before you got into the kind of bulk of your work? 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. So, You know, I started studying how the mind, the body, and the spirit works when I was 14. All right, essentially that the full story is, uh, I grew up with, you know, since age five, I, I took on this story, disbelief that people don’t understand me, which led to, of course, pretty intense loneliness, which led to potentially, you know, suicidal moments.

Ronnie Landis: I think I have one of those. Yeah. 

Dr. Steven Young: That’s at age 14, like literally knife in hand. This, this voice came in, you know, I’ve had these voices come in since I was five. So I’m used to them. And it said, you know, there’s no difference between you, Martin Luther King and Bill Gates. They just think differently. And so I put down the knife.

Went and got books on how to think differently. So the first book being psycho cybernetics was how to program your subconscious mind. And then at age 16 someone gave me the the Bhagavad Gita. So it was my first sort of spiritual text and going down that path. And so yeah, so I’ve been reading that type of stuff for now 35 years along the ways.

Academically, I’ve picked up degrees in Kinesiology, which like biomechanics applied to the human body. And then a masters and a doctorate in physical therapy. 

Ronnie Landis: Okay. 

Dr. Steven Young: And so for about a 20 year span, I had my own clinic where we did not only physical therapy, we did, you know, functional medicine, nutrition, yoga, fitness, massage, even jujitsu upstairs.

Um, and from treating 9, 000 patients over those 20 years, I saw, you know, Commonalities, right? Like 99. 9 percent of people with back pain have tight hip flexors. So I took the commonalities, like what are the most common tight and weak muscles and just, you know, created a program, uh, for people to do at home.

Right. So instead of having to go to physical therapist and, you know, traditional These days, out of pocket cost to see a PT is roughly 1, 600. These programs are 27. Right. So, and we sold a hundred thousand plus units of them to help over a hundred thousand people. 

Ronnie Landis: Wow. Yeah. Wow. That’s incredible. I’m realizing that I could do an entire podcast and just geeking out on physical therapy and kinesiology and, and biomechanics.

And Especially with like the last year of me focusing on my neuromuscular release therapy practice. Um, 9, 000 patients. I have a little ways to go to meet that. But it’s interesting what you said about lower back pain being connected to like the hip flexors. Because these are things that I’ve, I’ve, I’ve known, but now in my practice of watching people unwind and looking at the entire system itself, like in real time, these are things that I’m now seeing as obvious as obvious connective compartments where before, um, they seemed like, um, or most people think of it as like isolated.

Parts of the body, like, Oh, my back is just my back. It doesn’t have anything to do with my hips or my glutes or my IT band or something like that. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the traditional education system. is designed to box things. We tend to think in boxes. So we will box the spine in a box, the shoulder in a box, the sacrum in a box, but of course, they’re all interrelated.

And we can even say we can box the body in a box in a mind in a box, but also they’re interrelated. You know, and so a lot of times when we treat it, and this is also part of the course, we know that, um, the energetic cause of low back pain is the discrepancy between where you think you should be, like financially, professionally, versus where you are.

That gap is what causes back pain, right? And so, and that’s a mental component to it, but it’s completely related to the physical back pain. 

Ronnie Landis: Almost every one of my back injuries, and I’ve had quite a few, um, Aside from one that was actually an impact injury, um, that led to a sciatic nerve kind of rupture.

Every other one of them has been a spontaneous manifestation of a spasm, which, you know, in the upper right scapula, that’s, that’s when I’ve tracked a number of times. And then in the lower back, I actually had this a number of weeks ago. Um, Which what you just explained is like, I’m just like, yep, that, that actually maps out perfectly.

Yeah. This is actually an interesting point too, when we look at the, the metaphysical correlations to things, because in the physical body is slow compared to the quantum processing of, of the mind or of the soul. And so a lot of times we don’t make the logical connection that, Oh, this is happening in my body.

It’s because of my thought patterns. It may not be because of the thought in the moment. It may be because of thought loops or belief systems. that have been happening over time. And then just one moment, it just spawns in the body, right? So it’s not like I was thinking that in that moment, but this had been like a cumulative thought process or loop.

And then one perfect moment when I’m stretching on the bar, which I’ve done a hundred times, Yeah. It just, it just manifests itself. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. Typically for my experience, it takes somewhere between three to six months from the initial energetic calls to reach and manifest the physical, right? So there is a delay because it’s happening instantly.

And there’s some kind of delay where it then transitions into the physical body. And, you know, I love what you said about the interconnectedness. Again, we were taught to box things and we’re taught to focus. We’re not taught to, Take in reality in terms of the breath of reality. We’re taught to focus on one thing.

If we were just to switch that and just leveraging the law of polarity and hermetics, which I’m sure we’ll get into Um when you take in the breath of everything, you’ll notice everything’s interconnected How you open your door shows everything about your personality, right? And this is not like steven theory that um, You know milton erickson who’s pretty much the?

You know, he created hypnosis. He’s pretty much clinically the best, um, effective, like, changing someone’s state psychologist ever, right? I mean, Freud and other ones contributed to the field of understanding. But as far as a clinician, he was like, ahead of everyone. And he would literally put his desk, At the back of the room.

So when people walked in and sat down, he already knew everything about that, by the way, everything. Yeah. And so how we literally, if we’re paying attention to how our micro movements are happening, um, and how we’re choosing to pick up things and how we, how we even sit up, it tells us everything about who we are.

Ronnie Landis: Yeah, that’s interesting. It’s a, it’s an overwhelming prospect, but it’s also super empowering if you can really take that on without any self criticism or shame or judgment around it. Yeah. And just recognize that we’re not broken. There’s nothing that needs to be fixed, but there are things that get to be adjusted.

There are like, alignment points that get to be adjusted and improved upon. Yep. Because I think that’s what comes up, at least I can speak for myself in a past iteration of myself. Yeah. And certainly just the conditioning of humanity. I think one of the underlining belief programs is that If I don’t feel well, or something’s going on with my body, it’s an indication that something’s wrong with me.

Yeah. Or if my finances or my, my career, like you mentioned, or my relationships are doing an up and down, something’s wrong with me. Something is a defective within me. Yeah. And then clearly it can obviously manifest itself. As a perpetual cycle, like, okay, great. That’s that’s here you go. But here’s more of that.

Dr. Steven Young: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Again, you’re just speaking about a certain hermetic laws and yeah, there was a, uh, Early phase of my life, you know, in the twenties, uh, where I, much like yourself, like there was something wrong with me and I need to fix it. Right? Um, and I can tell you from, you know, 20 years of treating 9000 patients, I’ve yet to meet any human right outside of the clinic or, you know, I’ve met a lot of entrepreneurs, world leaders, all kinds of people.

Um, I have yet to meet someone that says, yep, yeah. I did my final healing and I’m done, right? And so I ended my healing simply by deciding that healing was not the path anymore. Then I’m switching to curiosity about who am I? And then whatever comes up, I love it even more versus let me find a problem to fix.

And 

so I was basically, um, changing the energy from like, there’s something wrong with me. I’m not there yet, which is mass media programming to curiosity and a practice of loving things even more. Right. And so, and I’m doing the same actions. It’s just a different relationship. Like I still do stuff for my body.

I still do read stuff and learn energy stuff, but it’s not coming from a, there’s something wrong with me. I need to fix it. Yeah. It’s curiosity to you. And to love even more. 

Ronnie Landis: When I first heard you speak, uh, before we actually met, you spoke at this festival that me and my partner are at, and you started speaking about the hermetic principles and immediately you had my attention, um, just the way you held yourself, the space that you carried.

And I could tell, okay. Not only is he very intelligent, but he’s very well studied and something that I’m, I’m aware of, but you, you just, your articulation and your refinement of what you were communicating about the hermetic principles really caught my attention. And you were talking about the concept of the egregore and immediately I was like, Oh, he knows.

And, you know, you mentioned about. There’s a lot of in the trauma informed personal development and healing space, you were talking about, you know, words or spells, and the more we spell something, the more we’re casting a spell, and when we’re talking about trauma, and essentially, the more you’re looking, the more you look for something, the more you find it.

So when you’re trauma informed, I’m kind of splicing some of my, my explanation into it. Yeah. The more informed you are about something, the more it kind of filters the lenses in which you’re looking at things and you just find more of that. And that’s a lot of times what we do, especially in the personal development, self help, self fix industry.

It’s like, okay, cool. I’m going to heal. I’m going to, I’m going to empower myself. I’m going to heal myself. I’m going to heal my traumas. And that can be great as a starting point. And more times than not, and I can use myself as a test subject as well, is that I have been astonished by how much I have been able to dig up.

I’m like, where did this cannot be coming from this life? How many lives have I lived to be able to go through all these ayahuasca ceremonies and all these, you processes, like where is all this quote unquote trauma or pain coming from? And then I realized like I too was on a bit of a hamster wheel of trying to heal things until I realized actually, Oh, that’s part of the self deception that I’m even broken.

I’m actually a full healing, complete. Yeah. I just had a misperception. that was leading me down maybe this dopaminergic rabbit hole of fixing something in the future, becoming something in the future, but I’m certainly not that right now. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. 

Ronnie Landis: And that was causing a lot of distress. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. I mean exactly what you said.

Like if you’re looking for something You see more of it, right? There’s a there’s a name for the effect where if you buy a car and all of a sudden you’ll see more of that car On the road. No the cars i’ve always been on the road. You just notice it now Right, and so if you’re into the healing and the ascension All the things where you’re like, you’re not there yet trying to get somewhere You’re you’re gonna get more of that right exactly What you said is the the mass media programming that brilliantly programs it as you’re not there yet and you’re not enough Yeah, right and and as far as healing when you speak about past lives You We have like infinite amounts of past lives, right?

It’s not like five. And so you can imagine trying to heal. Let’s just say there’s only 100, lowball it trying to heal 100, 000 lifetimes of stuff, right? You could, it’s, it’s a never ending game or you can realize, wait a minute. There were lifetimes where I was a murderer. There was a lifetime where I was a doctor.

There was a light time. I was a victim of some abuse. There was a lifetime where I was the abuser. And when you have that perceptive. scope of things, you realize, Oh, wait, there’s actually nothing to heal. Everything I’m experiencing in this lifetime is literally exactly. What was meant to be. 

Ronnie Landis: Mm. 

Dr. Steven Young: Right. And so that contrast, I mean, I, I’ve had specific memories of me, basically like stabbing people in a previous lifetime in London.

Right. And so, and of course I’m a, I’m a healer doctor, guy, whatever it is, 

Ronnie Landis: which is antithetical to who you know yourself to be now. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. And, and my, my personal story around that is, you know, soar, God, spirit, universe, whatever you wanna call it. Mm. Wants us to experience what I call the totality of reality.

Both sides, not just one side, not just joy. You know, we want sadness, not just love. We also want hate. We want the full spectrum and whether we get it in one lifetime or we get it in two lifetimes or 2000 lifetimes, we’re going to experience it all. 

Ronnie Landis: Cause the soul is immortal. Yeah. And we’re just in this, this realm, this construct of duality.

Yeah. And so it’s like, that is what makes this, this realm, if you will, the most challenging for an immortal soul, because we’re put into this finite construct. Yeah. And, uh, you know, the illusion that you’re, that you even are born and die, and that’s all based on a construct, but, but, you know, it’s, it’s what we’re experiencing and our nervous system processes it as real.

Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. 

Ronnie Landis: Okay, so I think this is a good opportunity. Actually, there’s one question I have before I want to get into the hermetics specifically. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, 

Ronnie Landis: the question that’s coming up for me is so with all the people, all the top performers and coaches and entrepreneurs and I’m sure athletes, all the people that have come through your therapy clinic, all the people you interact with now, which are a cast of high performers and probably every Industry imaginable.

What do you, what are the commonalities that you see that people struggle with regardless of their level of success or attainment? 

Dr. Steven Young: Well, uh, across the board is the illusion of not there yet. Everyone, everyone is under, I mean, in fact, some of the most driven people have that the most, which is why they’re so driven.

And so what we would label as successful. Right. Because they were like relentless in getting there. Right. And so that is by far the most common is the illusion of we’re not there yet. And the beauty of it is within the last three years, um, for many reasons, many of them are starting to realize that that is actually just an illusion.

Right. And so that they are, because one way to explain it through quantum mechanics is we’re entangled, entangled with pretty much everything in the universe. Right. Which means from a small molecule perspective, we are the universe, right? And one way, another way to describe it is we’re a drop in the ocean, but we’re also the ocean.

And so Imagine how silly it is for the drop in the ocean to say, I need to get somewhere because it is also the ocean. You’re everything. 

And 

so that’s like humans. It’s silly to think we need to get somewhere because we’re literally everywhere, everything. Right? And so once you go beyond the intellectual understanding of that and live from that, your entire reality changes.

Right? And so that’s one of my, basically, that’s one of the end points of people working with me is to get. To that place from an embodiment perspective, not just a understanding. 

Ronnie Landis: It’s integrated in their whole psychophysical nervous system. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. They’re literally wielding reality, like creating reality versus like trying to win the game.

Ronnie Landis: I don’t know if this, this is a segue into the hermetic principles. I’m sure it is, but I’m really curious about your perspective on that. Like, wielding reality, crafting reality, maybe it’s actually just co creating with reality. Because I think there’s, there’s two different principles that are happening.

One is that You know, I’m a, I’m a God particle. I’m a particle of God of the whole, you know, if I’m a child of God from that, that frame, then that means I have been imparted with the gifts and skills and capacities in wisdom of God in my own human consciousness filter. Right. So it’s all accessible within me.

I, in other words, I have. a certain level of sovereignty of my own destiny. And then there’s this other piece around how much free will do I really have, right? Like the, the juxtaposition between the two. And I’ve experienced I’ve experienced both and I’m still, I’m still learning to integrate it in pace with everything is absolutely perfect the way it is because it is.

And there is this, this desire to grow and expand and to fulfill like my potential. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. The internal sort of metaphor that I use is imagine just like a tall story building, right? And each floor of this elevator and each floor that you stop at has a certain experience, right? The experience on the first floor is different than the second third different than the third.

And when you get off the elevator, let’s say at the first floor, you can go anywhere in the room, but Technically the room is designed for a certain experience, right? So that’s the, you don’t have free will. You didn’t design the room, right? But you can go anywhere in the room. If you go to the second floor, it’s a whole different experience.

And third floor, a whole different experience. So as we elevate our frequency and vibration, we are elevating, let’s say going up the elevator of this building. And then life becomes that much more blissful, more revealing, more filled with love. Now this doesn’t mean that you’re perpetually in those states.

It just means that you’re Experiencing those states predominantly as the basis. And there will be moments of hate, sadness, anger, but you come back to the basis of love. Versus, in the first, second, third floor, you’re trying to get to love. 

Ronnie Landis: Mm hmm. 

Dr. Steven Young: Right? And so, there is free will and there is, um, destiny.

You know, that’s sort of like, I call them like, keystone moments in our lives. In other words, at each floor, depending upon where you’re vibrating, there are certain things in your lifetime that’s going to happen. You don’t have a choice. Right, but you do if you go to another layer or or a send, you know your frequency Then that preset of circumstances or situations changes, but it’s still another layer preset right, you can’t escape that because If there’s free will which we do have like I want a sip of water right now.

I get a sip of water That means there must be destiny as well. 

Ronnie Landis: And there’s, there’s event markers that are predestined, that are scripted. And those things are going to happen regardless. Even if you go left when you should have gone right, somehow life will conspire. It might take a little longer, but it will reroute you on the cosmic GPS for that event marker to happen, because that’s something that it’s meant to happen.

Then what you do. About it, I guess, is free will. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, yeah, I think our response to these key moments is exactly the data that goes back to source. Right? So it’s like preset programs. So, yeah, it’s just like, you know, video games. You beat level one, you go to level two, you beat level two, you go to level three.

It’s no different. 

Ronnie Landis: And there’s a learning curve to everyone. Yeah. Okay. So let’s get into the hermetic principles. And I think this will also give like a map. Like one thing I love about the hermetic principles a their principles They’re not like lowercase truths Like oh your truth and my truth, which I think is is like there’s perceptual truth Which is kind of fluid and I think most people are in that right now or exploring that like what their truth is but then there’s capital T truth or there’s there’s immutable laws or principles.

And I think that’s something that’s a little less common these days, like the foundational principles that actually govern reality. Like there’s principles that govern physical health. If you break these, the probability is that you’re going to experience Less than stellar health. Yeah, or whatever it may be.

Yeah. So yeah, let’s dive into that. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah That’s exactly the way I described the hermetic laws is, you know, right the analogy I give is imagine you buy Monopoly the board game But you you know, you’ve never played it you open a box and instead of reading the instructions You just like start throwing dice and start trying to get everyone to agree.

Well, what is the paper money for? What are these pieces for? And it would take a lot of time and you there’s going to be some fears of frustration argument of like what the rules are Right, but if you simply just read the box Everyone agrees you go. Got it. This is how the game works. The hermetic laws are like the rules of Reality basically, right and so and everything is governed by them They’ve been around for at least 26 000 years if not longer Which means all religions cultures and things their spiritual teachings come from it because it predates You know all the other religions and things like 26 000 years and so And you know for people listening this this isn’t fictitious You know, woo woo stuff, the Emerald tablets, which has been in physical hands of scientists studied that it looks like an Emerald, but it’s not Emerald.

They don’t know what material it is. And another way said is we don’t know what element it is. Doesn’t think this on earth, right? And those Emerald tablets were translated to derive these hermetic laws. And in fact, Isaac Newton, which we know as a physicist. He was more of a hermeticist and alchemist than a physicist.

He’s the one that translated the Emerald Tablet into English, right? And so there’s a lot of history that’s been hidden from us that, um, I mean, essentially the church did not want us to know. Because once you know these laws and once you study, Hermetics and alchemy, you realize you don’t need a middleman, you don’t need a middleman to be connected to God because you are right, like you’re always, you can’t be not connected, right?

So you can imagine institutions that sort of are the middleman wouldn’t want that to get out, right? It’s very understandable. And so do you want to just hop right into the seven laws? Like, 

Ronnie Landis: yeah, yeah, yeah, let’s do that.

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. So just quickly, um, and just, you know, for anyone listening, I’ve studied this stuff for 15 years and read countless books on it and decoded it because when you read these books They read like Plato Right, like if you read Plato and Socrates, it’s not like reading IKEA instructions, right?

It’s like you read a sentence you can think about it for a week Just that one sentence is I’ve done that for 15 years and decoded this into, you know, a course that if anyone wants to go deeper into, you know, I can give them access. So here I just really quick. I’ll sort of breeze through the seven laws, right?

Um, one of the laws the first one, um, and there’s no order. I typically just teach it in this order. It’s easier to understand The first law is the law of polarity, right? And so that essentially means At the first layer of understanding of this law, and each law has multiple layers of understanding. And also, um, just to set the context, these seven laws trap us in duality.

But these seven laws are also the key to unlock us from duality. It’s built in. It just depends on how deep of an understanding. If you only understand it at that superficial layer, you’re trapped in duality. When you go into the deeper layers, you’re now free from duality. Right? And so it’s the lock and the key.

And so the initial layer of understanding of polarity is things are opposites. You know, day, night, black, white. However, through deeper experience and wisdom, you realize there are no opposites, that everything is just varying degrees of something else, right? And so, for example, hot and cold are not opposites, they’re just varying degrees of temperature, right?

In fact, yesterday, I was just on a call with someone, what came to me, like, semi channeled in a way, was good and evil seem like opposites. They’re actually just varying degrees of temperature. of recognizing God in this situation. Because if you recognize God in a situation, you’d be like, it’s good. If you see like a situation, you’re like, God was not a part of this.

You would be like, that’s evil. Right. And so evil and good are not opposites, just varying degrees, subtle varying degrees of how much you see God in that situation that you just judged basically. Right. And so that’s a, you know, first law, second law, uh, law of rhythm just means everything swings back and forth.

Right? What is Everything in nature, right? We have cycles of everything. Nothing is static. And the real life application of the logarithm is all of your life problems, any problem in life, Is associated with the law rhythm because you either have an old story that you’re not allowing to move in the past or a future desire outcome that you’re attached to, that you’re not wanting to move.

That’s the future. Those two things are the causes of all problems. If you allow your target, what you want to move and you allow your stories to move, you actually can’t have problems, right? You just be in alignment with. Um, the universe and also your stories about something would change, be like, Oh, there goes the problem.

Or I want apples, but you know, this place only has oranges. I’ll take an orange. They’re problem solved. There’s no problem. 

Ronnie Landis: It’s like the, it’s like the passage, this too shall pass, right? Yeah. No matter what’s happening, good or bad, this will not last. There’s a, there’s a momentum and there’s a swing to everything.

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. My advice to people is instead of just waiting. You just change the rhythm. You, you, you take action to either change your desire outcome or change your previous story. And that would just immediately dissolve that day that the quote unquote problem that moment, right? So it’s not like you got to wait a week and somehow it dissolves.

It’s you just take action to swing. 

Ronnie Landis: A lot of times I’ve found when I’m going through something that I didn’t asked for quote unquote, um, or I didn’t expect that’s maybe jarring or a relationship has some turbulence or whatever it may be. I immediately move my body to start, right? It’s like if I’m dealing, if I’m trying to deal with something that is just, you know, insurmountable, or I don’t have access to the next step, I could either beat myself against the wall and try to think my way out of it.

Or what’s the next thing to do? Okay, well, I need to move my body, I’m going to go for a long walk around the lake, or I’m going to go into the gym, or I’m going to go for a run or something. Yeah, to move the energy. And then from there at least I know like my internal energetic has shifted so I’m in a better state To be able to access an alternative perspective or something just magically happens out of nowhere.

Yeah 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, yeah, and that that’s great advice because we are Energetic beings and when you move your body you’re moving energy, right which ties into some of the the other laws um third one law of cause and effect just Basically means input output. Everything has an input output. It’s not like by accident.

Again, the real life application is we tend to, you know, follow our cognitive biases. When we, for example, when we wake up with neck pain, we go, Oh, how was the bed with a pillow? We don’t think about, Oh, wait, this time last year, my dad died. Right? So when you look at cause and effect, look beyond the cognitive bias of recency bias.

If you want to look at previous older stuff, it’s, it, everything shows. And in fact, you know, a lot of quote unquote difficulties that people that come into people’s lives. If you just search back far enough, you’ll find that there’s an archetypal root cause of that problem. And I mean archetypal by, um, You might have a problem.

I’ll make up a scenario. Um, you work for this male. He’s sort of like the father figure and all of a sudden he like comes down on you. Well, it’s because the archetype of your father did that and you did not sit well with that. You did not forgive your father or something. And it’s going to show up again in your workspace.

Ronnie Landis: It’s like you saying it’s like, it’s almost like an energy that moves through the person. Yeah. It’s not even necessarily, Oh, it’s that person. He’s an asshole or whatever. Yeah. It’s like, it’s a, it’s an archetypal energy that the perfect conditions were there in that moment. him to exhibit that that behavior.

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, the, the most common moments that people think, right, introspect and go, wait a minute, what’s happening? Who am I? Well, no, it’s the most common moments where we’re not brainwashed into constant outputting and not thinking about us is when quote unquote problems arise.

But the thing is, we can, of course, introspect. Anytime, right? But we definitely introspect when there’s problems because we’re trying to solve it, 

Ronnie Landis: right? 

Dr. Steven Young: And so every problem or every situation I call it friction is Literally the universe and your subconscious and God all working together. It’s really can lump it as one And your nervous system, that’s what the physical aspect, it’s telling you there’s an energy that’s in you that doesn’t belong there, right?

And you get to release it and move it, right? And really the better words, you get to transmute it, you change the frequency, you don’t really release. And so, that’s the law of cause and effect. There’s the law of gender, which just means, you know, masculine and feminine energies and everything. Real life experiences start tuning in to masculine energy and feminine energy.

Within yourself and of course with any human right moment to moment who is driving dictating creating the structure Which is masking the energy and who is the inspiration emotional flow mystery chaos? Which is the feminine energy and just know that dance because if you’re both in a feminine or both in a masculine, it’s not going to work.

Well, you want the polarity. Uh, there’s the law of vibration, right? So everything in the universe is vibrating molecules, right? And so the, the, I call it horizontal application of this is we are the tree. We are the chair, you know, we are the beanbag that we’re sitting on the vertical, right? Um, understanding is.

Right. I would say like if our fingertip is arbitrarily vibrating at 10 Hertz, we would call it finger at 20 Hertz. We might call it spirit at 30 Hertz. We might call it God, but it’s still the same molecule. Right. And that’s a different framework than spirit. And God is somewhere else that we need to connect to.

This says we are the same molecules as those things. They’re just vibrating at different frequencies. Right. And then for people to really take that in, it completely changes the relationship to. Source, universe, God, right? Like you, you literally, you know, when you, when you take in and live as the Law of Vibration, you’re basically, um, calling in miracles more and more into your life.

That’s, that’s gonna be the side effect of taking on the Law of Vibration. And there’s the law of mentalism, which is all things come from thought and mind, right? So just be very careful with every spell that you’re spelling and crafting in your mind, whether you’re speaking it or not. It is absolutely affecting all of reality.

And then, you know, the law I leave, Last always is a law of correspondence, right? Also known as as above, so below, as within, so without. And essentially the law of correspondence states that your external situation, and we’ve alluded to this, is a direct reflection of your internal. In other words, your external life is a holographic projection of your internal, right?

And now some people say, well, how do you explain a baby born with A genetic defect. Well, it’s expressed. You’re just only looking at it from this lifetime. Yeah, right. Look at it from multiple lifetimes. You go, Oh yeah, got it. Yeah. And in some lifetime, they wanted to experience like that type of life. You know, maybe someone lived their life of perfect health and longevity.

Like, I wonder what it’s like to have a genetic disorder. So you want to zoom out. We We get caught up in our, our blurp of time on, on this planet, basically. So those are, those are the seven walls. 

Ronnie Landis: Yeah. Thank you. And that was incredibly succinct. And it’s, it’s an infinite exploration for sure. Just to go into any one of those and then decode it and then.

The practical application, which is what I’m really interested in. I think that’s, that’s a lot of what you’ve done is be able to decode kind of the mystique around it and apply it to life as is and how to use it to, like you said, wield reality or co create with reality. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, and you know, I can sort of expound on that a little bit.

Yeah, I would love that. So, wielding reality doesn’t suggest I’m 100 percent manifesting, right? Because I remind people in, you know, my, my story and theory about quote unquote manifesting is that is a word and a tendency and a, and a desire from what I call the other team, right? Other than, Source that serves all life, right?

Because manifesting is essentially getting what your ego wants. And there’s a whole story of how like Atlantis fell. One way we can describe it is everyone wanted to manifest what they wanted. There was a time in Atlantis where human civilization lived in complete harmony for 20, 000 plus years. They weren’t manifesting.

They were living in harmony with all life. Right, they were dancing with light versus I want this dance to happen. And so we’re heading towards a time where you can just feel there’s all this talk and all this teachings about manifesting, manifesting, which is essentially just getting what your ego wants.

Ronnie Landis: Right. 

Dr. Steven Young: And so when I say wielding reality, one way to say this, there is some manifesting, like if I want orange juice, I’m going to go get orange juice. Right. At a low level, the it’s almost like 100 percent manifesting and 100 percent let God drive at the same time. That’s what I mean by wielding reality.

Like I, you know, share with you before this podcast that, you know, meeting this global meeting happened, we came up with, you know, six things that we need to do to basically prevent human extinction. And it was like one aspect of one of the six that was missing. And then four days later, a person calls like, Oh, yeah, I have that.

I have that. That’s what I mean. That’s like, I did not drive that, of course, right? Not my ego, but some other greater force drove that. And when you live as the laws, this is what you’re opening your life to. 

Ronnie Landis: I want to go a little bit deeper into, into the parallel between those two. There’s the, you know, everything that you said about manifesting.

And I really appreciate that too. And there is also. a quality of having the ability to, and I don’t even know if manifest is the right word, but to bring into the holographic field of creation, like to imbue, to imbue my intention and my desire that is in service of the whole, but also serves me. which allows me to serve the whole.

And I, if that makes sense. And I think that’s kind of where I’m arriving at too, where, you know, I have my personal desires for my life and, and resources and just the functionality of my life and the life that I want to live. And there’s also, The part of me that is learning to surrender and learning to Ease up on the engine to allow more space and grace for life to just self inform What that even looks like 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, yeah, i’ll share with you from my personal experience, um 49 I’ve never vision boarded.

I’ve never wrote down goals of like three years five years. The only thing i’ve done is You Studying who am I? And the side effect is I get to live this incredible life that I live now now it took me You know 40 some years to get to this there was definitely times Where you know one would say oh there were some financial difficulties and I was working like 80 hours a week and all that stuff But even during that time I did not have any goals of like We’re gonna grow the company this size or whatever.

It was always still the main focus of like, who am I? And the side effect has led to all the miracles and all the things that are happening, right? And so I just want to share that with people that are listening because we’re only taught the focus manifest what you want and your desires. And of course, these days we’re combining our desires with what serves us.

Life which is great, but that’s still in the world manifesting. I believe that in the miracle space There’s no desire right because even the word desire Is 125 on hawkins’s scale which exists in the absence of truth This is why I’ve met so many billionaires million multi multi multi millionaires that have Gotten their desires and they’re not any more fulfilled in a thousand air.

Ronnie Landis: They can be just as broken and disheartened 

Dr. Steven Young: Yes is not fulfilled. Yeah, because they got to all those things through a frequency that exists in the absence of truth Yeah, that’s why and so you want to be really careful with desire and some people let go healthy desire is good I would say here and there, but if your life is predominantly driven by desire, you’re predominantly living in the absence of truth.

Ronnie Landis: Now we’re leading into like addiction territory. Chasing pleasure to avoid pain. Yeah. Right. Yeah. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. And I find that the, the greatest gift that we can have For the world is knowing who we are because that vibration resonates out into the world of you all know all the other illusionary humans. You know who you are, right?

And so I believe that like is, you know, the path. So 

Ronnie Landis: beautiful. Yeah. I want to go into the miracle space. Sure. I mean, I want to go more into the miracle space now that you’re bringing it up. 

Dr. Steven Young: Sure. I mean, I mean, first of all, I’ll define my content miracles, right? Essentially, it’s the opposite of wanting something.

It’s just something that you couldn’t even dream of asking for that comes into your life, right? I’ll give you an example. Two years ago, two and a half years ago, I was like, got this intention of like, okay, I’m going to help more entrepreneurs. And in my linear mind by my egoic limited Steven mind, I was like, okay, I’m going to, um, do more retreats that I do experiences.

I’m going to ask the entrepreneurs that come for referrals, right? So, you know, and I only do maybe 6 to 10 of these a year. So in, you know, 10. So we’re looking at like, I’m currently serving 60 to about 120 entrepreneurs a year. And so in my linear brain would have gotten maybe to 150 to 200. Um, yeah. This guy calls me and he’s like, Hey, I heard about you from someone, 190, 000 businesses uses his system.

And he’s like, let’s work together somehow. So I can immediately affect 190, 000 different businesses. That’s a miracle. I couldn’t have even thought about asking for that. It wasn’t even in my realm. And so that’s sort of the context of miracles in how I’ve lived. There is tracking my state of being moment to moment.

I believe that the more we are deeply in tune to our true state of being right like when I say true state of being what I mean is facing that suppressed anxiety, the suppressed fear that is running in the background and revealing that as you clear that you’re automatically because our natural state is divine love joy.

And as we’re clearing all that and we’re naturally vibrating in that divine love, joy, vibration, that’s calling in miracles. And I even track this so many times where something, um, unwanted came into my life again, three to six months ago. I either had a terrible fight with a partner and I was in that state of anger and hate and frustration and irritated.

Literally three months later, something would happen in business that was unfavorable. And so these days, if there’s any slight of that energy happening with a partner, I’m doing stuff to clear that as soon as possible. Whereas in the past, I was not aware of that. Direct immediate connection. 

Ronnie Landis: Yeah I’m laughing because i’m going through a slideshow right now.

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, 

Ronnie Landis: so you said that you’ve been able to track it Yeah about three to six months pre dating The manifested thing, the phenomenon. Yep. Right. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yep. And that’s a micro set cycle of a macro. I’ve even tracked larger cycles. And so I have, you know, I took a, it’s one of those assessments of like, which type of entrepreneur you are.

I’m a mechanic, which means I see patterns. My brain has always been to see patterns. And so I, I track these micro patterns, which is that three to six months. And there’s macro patterns of like. Year, two year, three year patterns, where I will get into a similar, if not the same type of friction with a partner, like it’s just showing up, right?

And it’s stuff for me to process. And so, just for everyone listening, just pay attention to these micro and macro cycles, because they’re a lot of rhythm. Right. Everything’s coming and going and coming and going. So it’s when it comes, that’s your moment to pay attention to it and lead into it. 

Ronnie Landis: And if you don’t clear it, let’s say as quickly as possible, then it’s like, it’s like imprintations, like energetic imprints or information that’s left over.

Yeah. And then it’s, it’s going to cycle again as an opportunity to clear it. Yeah. But you’re not going to see it coming. Because it’s not happening instantaneously. Yeah, there’s a lag time. 

Dr. Steven Young: There’s a lag time, 

Ronnie Landis: right? 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, because it takes some time It’s almost like, you know Programming a game and then like you got to like run the game after you program it There’s a there’s like a lag time that that’s what’s happening And typically what I found is that the the exact same feelings and state of being i’m in in those moments of friction Are exactly the same states of being that I experienced later three to six months in some other areas of my life Maybe unrelated.

It’s the same energy, different people, different circumstance, different situation, same exact energy. 

Ronnie Landis: And if we’re not conscious about it, we’re playing a hall of mirrors. Yeah. Looking at this, looking at that, no, this, but it’s actually, it’s one thing. It’s one thing. Yeah. Okay. How, how have you found for you to be effective at clearing?

Like, like, what’s your process for that? 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, these days, you know, it’s a little, little backstory. So, um, someone told me about the Ho’oponopono Maybe eight or nine years ago, right? And so I’ve been sort of quote unquote using that for eight or nine years. Like, for example, you know, if something happened between you and I, I would say in my mind’s eye or out loud, like Ronnie, I love you.

I’m sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. And then two years ago doing like a very tough relationship breakup, like cry for two days straight. Um, this voice came to me and says, go get certified in the Hoponopono. And it was one of the first times I’ve argued with this voice. I was like, why do I need to go survive?

I’ve been doing it for like eight years and it was like, go get certified. So I was like, all right. And so I take the certification and it was mind blowing because the certification taught by Dr. Hugh Lynn, who’s the original person that sort of brought that prayer and popular into the West. Basically states that.

You only ever say it to God within his context. You’re basically, and you can replace God with universe, spirit, source, whatever term that resonates for you. Um, you’re basically saying, I love you, God. I’m sorry. This, this phrase is the most important. I have not recognized your love and divine orchestration in every moment of my life.

Right. So every moment you’ve ever had problems or you suffered know that God actually has orchestrated it and you’re asking for forgiveness for not recognizing that. So please forgive me. Thank you. And basically, um, I just repeat that over and over. So the first. Week after I was certified I did for 30 hours a week next week I did it for 30 hours a week and Cuz I was like, I’m gonna test it cuz he’s like if you do this You will clear your subconscious and calling miracles.

So I was like, alright, I’m like a student So I’m gonna do it for 30 hours a week for two weeks and let’s see Well after two weeks for nine consecutive days a miracle happened every day. It was incredible, right? And so these days I do it always before meals a lot of times before I drink something Cause it’s, I’m just like habit stacking, right?

Anytime I’m like consuming something, do the Ho’oponopono. And there are times where if I’m like driving a long distance or doing something that’s like sort of mindless, I’m basically just chanting the Ho’oponopono. So that’s like a super simple Universal clearing that people can do right, which is I love you.

I’m sorry. Please forgive me and thank you within that context of not recognizing God’s love and orchestration. And of course, our specific like I’ve taken again, my, my mechanic, my night. I took a course on how to help people clear their subconscious minds of specific things and the course was taught to clinicians to do it one on one.

I basically figured out an algorithm of how to say it and I just made an mp3 and I’m more than happy to share with everyone for free. You can clear any previous experience where you have stuck energy, right? If for example, if there’s a previous experience where you’re like, hmm, whenever I think about that, I feel angry.

Or I feel resentment or I feel shame, feel whatever you can use the base meditation to basically dissolve that. And there’s once you do the base meditation to dissolve those things, there’s also specific meditations for letting go self judgment and letting go of attachment or letting go of identities, which is huge.

And so those are, you know, our identities are the biggest programs that we have. Right. And just, you know, for you and listeners, and I think we’ve talked about this, like, if you strongly identify as being strong, you will absolutely call into your life things that are difficult to exert your mental or physical strength.

It’s the only way that you can feel strong. The only way to, and then of course people be like, why are things so hard? Because you attach to being strong. The moment you let go of that, or at least fully love weakness, The moment you do that your life immediately changes And so dissolving these identities are one of the most powerful things that you could do 

Ronnie Landis: I want to I want to go into that just a little bit more too and and you know We did have that conversation a while back when that came up for me 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, yeah, it may seem scary for most people to not be driving.

I call it like you’re just driving your life like Turn left, turn right, go straight backwards. It’s scary to sit in a passenger seat because you’re like, oh my god, no one’s, no one has a steering wheel, I might crash. But realize that Source, Universe, God, Aliens, someone, someone way more powerful and capable than you always has the wheel.

Right. And so it’s just this practice of being in the passenger seat and be like, okay, I’m going to let go of control and let’s see what happens.

Ronnie Landis: I feel like in our, our world, the macro and the micro, all of us are being called into a greater state of maybe, I don’t think passive surrender, but active surrender, like the, the skill set of surrender, you know, cause it’s so much of us, so many of us have been. under the illusion that we’re driving the ship.

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We’re definitely, like I said, you know, in the last three years, there’s been a, I mean, from my reality, almost all of my entrepreneur friends in the last three years have embarked on this deep spiritual journey. Like literally I would say at least 95 percent of them that I know and so there is this overall arching Um force that is guiding this and of course, there’s many of us that are doing You know like the the spiritual mission we did in 2021 to send love into the collective consciousness Was designed to catalyze this right?

And so and we are not the only ones of course There’s probably thousands of people all over the world tens of thousands that are doing this work to move humanities consciousness collective consciousness Along so And all that is to say, um, it’s going to happen whether you want it or not. You might as well enjoy it.

Ronnie Landis: There’s so much to access with you. And so many things that I think are going to help people really gain a greater awareness and, and spectrum of perspective to apply what Oftentimes is seems like a complicated concept again, like the hermetic principles are different metaphysical teachings, but the simple application to improve one’s life to improve their health to improve how they feel about themselves, you know, their state of mind, body and spirit.

I think that’s ultimately What most people are seeking. I know for me, I’m, I’m always looking to improve my, my state of mind, my state of body, my state of spirit, how I feel about myself, because that allows me to show up in the world, you know, and to contribute and to. Live a happier life, you know more fulfilled life is the right word exactly and so i’m no different than anyone That’s why I started this podcast.

That’s why I keep doing this podcast. Yeah, and that’s why i’m sitting here with with you Because you have so much wisdom to impart and um So with that said There’s a, there’s a few things I want to, I want to get your take on as, as we close this out. Yeah. I’m going to go this direction. The four quadrants or dimensions of the human experience, you know, mental, emotional, physical, spiritual.

I look at those as They’re not separate, but they have their own individual kind of place like the there’s there’s rules or principles that dictate the mind as much as the harder the emotions, the spirit, the body, and they’re not all the same, like the same rules that apply to the mind don’t necessarily apply exactly to the body.

Right. But they’re all interconnected. So if I were to start with the, the mental field, what would you say are some of the most important things for people to, um, to start thinking about, to develop more of their, their mental, mental health or wellbeing? 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. And, and before I answer that, it may be helpful for people to consider.

Um, a different context about those four. Okay. So instead of four separate squares, yeah, right? Like top left top right bottom left bottom, right? Think of the the russian nesting doll Right, which has a doll within a doll within a doll the outermost doll is spirit this one doll in his mind One doll in is the emotional body, and the smallest doll is the physical body.

And so that’s, to me, more of an accurate description. Because one, some of them trump the other ones. Even though they are different, they’re different dolls, but they’re contained in another doll. Okay, so I just want to offer that context before I answer. And so, um, if the question is what, what is advice that someone could do for, um, I guess, navigating their, their mental self.

Ronnie Landis: Yeah, navigating through that word. 

Dr. Steven Young: Okay. Well, um, I think first and foremost, know that we are here to experience the totality of reality. Once you take that in, you no longer will judge emotions like anger as bad. 

Ronnie Landis: Right. 

Dr. Steven Young: Any emotion held linearly is not serving. Right, like if your family member gets stabbed to death and you’re in joy the whole time, that does not serve you, right?

And so first and foremost know that you’re here to experience a wide range of everything from there when you’re experiencing it Because the personal development space and what I call New Age Western spirituality space says no, no, no You’re supposed to be finding the gift in it and you’re supposed to be You know, be in joy or bliss or something with this situation.

No, you want to give yourself space to feel what you’re feeling, right? And allow that if you’re feeling depressed or angry or resentment, give yourself grace to feel that. And then once that feeling is sort of Not as intense then you can take your mind and go got it Where did that come from right and then from there really you’re just applying the law of mentalism and the law of correspondence Which is what’s within me?

That is causing this external circumstance, right? Because you wouldn’t look at a mirror and see like lipstick on your left cheek and wipe the mirror like you would wipe your own cheek literally the external world is a exact mirror of our internal world right and so if you’re going to You know play peekaboo and hide and seek with curiosity with yourself look inwards And instead of the outward so that would be In general a very simple approach to navigating sort of the mental realm You want to go through all that?

Yeah, yeah physical. Uh, well, I mean our physical bodies um, but you know before I answer I would say that what I am about to share about the physical body Because the physical body is the smallest doll in, you can totally override everything I’m about to say mentally and spiritually. Right. And so, and, you know, we have lots of proof of this these days, you know, we have like Wim Hof, um, climbing Everest in shorts.

That is not physically possible. Right. The only way he’s doing that is through energy and mind and spirit. Right. And so, from a body perspective or physical perspective, I mean, our physical system is being exposed to a lot of energies that don’t belong there. Right. We, we can call that, you know, environmental contaminants.

We know the average adult in America has about 400 industrial chemicals in their blood. The average newborn baby in America has 200 industrial chemicals, right? This is, you know, actual blood test research. Um, so for a physical health perspective, you want to make sure that you’re literally Having a detoxification process going on.

Right. So you’re minimizing it coming in and you’re doing things to get it out. That could be through infrared sauna. It could be through, um, different detoxification processes. So that, um, another physical things you got to move your body. Right. And so, because if you don’t, you’re going against the law rhythm, right?

You’re being static and you’re going against one of the root laws of reality. And you’re going to. You’re going to quote unquote have problems with that, that you would call health problems and things, right? So you want to make sure you move your body on a regular basis. And I think the third thing, which is sort of an overall arching approach to it is, we’ve been taught to change and manipulate our bodies, right?

It’s not where we want it to be. We, we want to do everything. Action is about changing it from A to B. I, I’m recommending a different relationship, which is you’re tending to the sacred temple. You’re just honoring it. You’re not just trying to like lose five pounds of body fat, right? You’re honoring your sacred temple through deep, deep, deep relationship with food through moving your body and the side effect is you lose the five pounds.

Right. So just changing the relationship in terms of how you’re, um, affecting your body. Right. Instead of one of like, Oh, it’s A and I need to get it B. It’s, I’m just going to honor the sacred temple. Right. So that’s, that’s body. Um, emotion. So emotion kind of, you know, is. somewhat tied to the mind, right?

And I’ve already spoken about giving yourself space to actually feel. And then from a navigating feeling perspective, we’re taught to contract, right? When you feel fear, you want to reduce fear. When you feel anger, do you want to reduce anger? Because we’re not watching movies and we haven’t read books that says, you know what, when you get angry, you want to get 10 times more angry.

That’s what we haven’t been programmed with that. There’s a reason because if we actually did that, we would fully transmute that energy. And it would no longer be in us. Right? But if we try to contain it, it’s literally holding it on into your body, right? And now the the world gets to make money from you to quote unquote heal you.

Ronnie Landis: Right, 

Dr. Steven Young: right, right. And so if we simply just allow emotions to fully express and in fact, you know, magnify those emotions. This is straight from David Hawkins Letting Go work. Right. Not even original Steven, it would allow the energy to move. Right. And so, and which is emotion, right? And so just letting that it literally wants to be in motion, right?

Emotion. It wants to move just basically allow it to move Right, so that’s that’s emotional and in spiritual. Um, I think the The most serving context for spiritual is everything spiritual, right? Not just a church or a monastery, or when you’re doing yoga, like drinking coffee is spiritual, putting on underwear, spiritual.

And so you want to look at everything as spiritual because you are spirit, right? And so completely changes the context of everything because it starts to essentially dissolve the I’m not there yet energy, right? And from there, a deeper practice and actual practice would be just practice daily observing your life as the observer, right?

Like there’s you, let’s say drinking coffee and you taste the coffee and then it’s hot. And then there’s the observer watching you drink the coffee, holding the cup a certain way, you know, you know, reflecting on whatever you’re feeling while you’re drinking the coffee. And also, I mean, this is straight Tantra, you can also be Source, God, Universe, that’s observing the observer, observing you, right?

There’s these multiple layers, right? And so, that practice, because I believe that practice on a moment to moment basis, especially combined with the Hermetic Laws, is the foundation of spirituality. You don’t need a lot of advanced tips and tricks. Basically we’re still advanced tips and tricks. It’s just master the basics.

Ronnie Landis: Right. So one of the things, thank you for that. Yeah. One of the things that I’m hearing about is so much of this is about reducing tension, reducing contraction, you know, in my work. We talk about compressions or contractions or holding patterns or self protection, um, which are all just points of contraction.

You know, it’s just where there’s tension that’s being held. And when I’m doing deep structural integration work on somebody’s body, a lot of times it’s physical, but more than not, when I release say their shoulder, it’s not just the physical adjustment. There’s like a Like there’s an energetic that cascade.

Sometimes it’s a very emotional process, whatever part of the body is being released because it’s not just the physical tension. The tension is actually the physical part is actually the, um, the symptom or the by product it’s actually what they’re holding. Say in the shoulders or the neck or the hips or the back whatever like we pointed out before and the body self contracts to hold The energy in place that’s been a really fascinating thing to witness.

I knew that conceptually But to actually know it know it. Yeah, because I see it every single day And all the things like the back injuries i’ve healed in myself Have not come from stretching. They’ve come from deep breath work and breathing into the sensation and magnifying it to open it and to, to energetically release whatever, whatever has been bubbling up.

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. That’s beautifully said. It’s exactly how our, our physical elements are just really our energetic spiritual cells talking to us about something. Right. And so, and, and keep in mind within that context, instead of four separate squares in a Russian doll nesting doll, um, metaphor, any thing done to any doll affects the other dolls.

Ronnie Landis: Right. 

Dr. Steven Young: Cause it’s really one doll. Right. That’s the beauty. I love that sort of framework better than the separate, like a diagram one. 

Ronnie Landis: Yeah. And that, that separate diagram is like, it’s like a flat earth model that you can look and you can, you can see kind of it laid out, but practically more accurately, like, you Yeah, the Russian doll model, just because it’s all integrated, it’s all one, it’s all whole, right.

And, you know, I think that that the word wholeness keeps coming up for me over the last few years, especially in this conversation, everything we’re talking about is the associated connective components of a whole. And the whole is you, me, we are a whole, and not just me as an individual human being and all my whole parts and pieces.

But I’m part of the whole of humanity. And so my Me working through my human conditioning Is not just for my own quote unquote healing, but it’s actually every time I Transmute and transform something within me that is creating a healing in the conditioning of humanity as a whole Because like you said the quantum entanglement Is real.

Yeah, and so like even if something manifests in my life say an addiction or a particular habit or a neurosis or something that’s persistent, I can identify with that and oh, this is my, this is my pathology. This is my unique karma or whatever that I have to deal with. But that’s very, that’s looking at it from a very myopic Um, almost narcissistic point of view.

What if what’s manifesting inside of my experience that’s seeking transformation is actually an opportunity for me to become the alchemist that can actually help heal the whole through just my own presence. 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah, you know, uh, to add to that, so many, many years ago, I was working with this Diné elder, which we would call the Navajo, you know, Americans would call them Navajo, and I said, she said, um, I think she said there’s only like 2, 000 words in their native language, and 80 percent of them are verbs, and only 20 percent are nouns.

And now I’ve spoken to many indigenous people, a lot of indigenous cultures, the shamans will speak about how, um, They’re very careful not to name things, right? They’re very careful with using nouns, because every noun is a box. And as soon as you put something in a box, your brain goes, yep, it’s in the box.

And it no longer contemplates deeply about the thing. Alright, and so just, I just want to offer that for anyone that’s listening, just, You might want to let go of some of your nouns and boxes. Right, because as soon as you say, I’ll make up something, That person’s narcissistic. Well, You’re no longer going to take the time to see the full totality of that person, because you put them in a box.

Totally. Right. And you can do that to yourself. You can, you know, do so many things that we put into boxes. Um, I was at a, a talk one time with Tom Chi, who’s like this super genius that was head of Google X. They were tasked with solving a world problem a week, like massive genius, 300 patents. And so he put a slideshow of what would be called a fork, but he said, we can’t call it a fork.

Describe it and within a minute we someone shared, you know How the Romans popularized like we figured out where it came from But if we would have just been like what’s that and fork we’d be done Right, and so there’s this power of letting go of nouns and going deeper into things Yeah, I mean essentially to keep the economic engine going and prevent the masses from you know I mean, really taking back control over humanity is you get them to, um, I mean, it shows up in our words, understanding, right?

Like I, I thought about this just, you know, a couple of months ago, whenever someone shares data, like whoever’s listening to this podcast, the listeners are probably like, I want to understand as much as possible, but imagine, um, you know, harmonizing, at least understanding with, I want to live as the full vibration of what I’m hearing as much as possible.

Okay. Cool. Right. And so we are tricked into thinking we need to understand first, and maybe after 10, 000 hours of practice, we embody it based on, you know, Malcolm Gladwell’s book. However, we can immediately vibrate as it. We can’t, right? We just, we’re not taught that. And so again, that’s another advice, you know, related to what you just said, which is, Essentially, to let go of the, or at least reduce, right, to sort of harmonize and balance the tendency of like labeling everything to understand it, right, for typically safety and significance, to actually just living as something without ever needing to know, right?

Because that’s kids, right? Kids are just playing all day, right? And so, and anything they want to know, Purely from curiosity, right? And so eventually they get indoctrinated and now they are, you know, the way that we adults are. 

Ronnie Landis: Then we spend our entire life peeling back. Yeah. Peeling back those layers.

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah, so in I mean if I could sum up like one macro advice is like basically go back to being a child Play fully express feel all the feelings You know kids don’t aren’t born judging themselves Right and so just go back to being a kid again. 

Ronnie Landis: Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah Where can people find it?

There’s so many more questions that were coming up for me, but I’m like, okay, maybe we’ll, we’ll do a part two in the future. Um, where can people find more about you, your work, some of the resources that you shared? 

Dr. Steven Young: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, for now, um, You know, one way is like Instagram. I’ve been posting a lot of content and whatever is coming up in my life on my Instagram account, which is just Steven Young Alchemist.

Um, I also have a website just, you know, Dr. Steve Young, but it needs to be updated. I have not really updated that site in like 10 years. That’s my goal this year. But yeah, so Instagram might be the best way. And then, you know, if anyone. Um, once access to her manic scores, I’m sure I can give you the link or something.

Absolutely. Share it out there. 

Ronnie Landis: So. Beautiful. Yeah. Last final question. Yeah. What does life mastery mean to you? 

Dr. Steven Young: Well, um, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I always like to give context before I answer questions, right? So you hear a lot of people say, like, life is not happening to you. It’s happening for you. From my perspective, a deeper understanding is you are life, right?

Even to say it’s happening to you or for you. Separates you from life. And so, you are life. So, essentially, if we follow that context, then what you’re asking is Self mastery because life is self totally. So I just want to give that context before I answer. And then the answer is going to be, you know, for, for my perspective, I am consistently living as those seven hermetic laws and sense making and perceiving from the laws and not from my own egoic stories of childhood and stuff.

Right. And so I’m, I’m perceiving reality through. These laws are through a divine lens which automatically brings more divine energy into me, which we would call miracles Right and then while all this is happening whether i’m, you know manifesting and wanting something or having miracles come i’m consistently reflecting on I believe our awake life Is our spirit sleeping and dreaming just like when we sleep, right if we sleep and we you know I don’t know get into a car crash doesn’t mean like literally we’re going to crash a car It’s a metaphor It might be like, you’re going too fast in life and you feel like you can’t keep up that rate, right?

It’s a metaphor. Our awake life is a metaphor for our spirit. And so as we’re navigating everyday moments in your awake life, also reflect on, wait a minute. If this was a dream, what does this mean? And you’ll get automatically deeper, deeper wisdoms about the self. 

Ronnie Landis: Thank you so much. Yeah. Absolute pleasure.

Dr. Steven Young: It was fun as I, I thought it’d be.