Ronnie Landis
Greetings everyone. Welcome to another edition of the Life Mastery podcast. I’m your host Ronnie Landis and we have a great episode with my dear brother, Dr. Nick Berry. Dr. Nick is the founder of an amazing essential oil company called Essential Oil Wizardry. Dare I say the absolute highest quality, most pristine, most precise

formulations of high quality essential oils and plant-based alchemy substances on the market. Dr. Nick has been a very good friend of mine for, let’s see, 11 or 12 years now. We’ve been friends, we’ve been colleagues. We’re just very, very admirers of each other’s body of work. And we’ve gone on a number of journeys together over the years. And I’ve seen Dr. Nick

grow and evolve in so many ways and I had the pleasure of spending a lot of time with him. He actually came to Austin, Texas when I had my last birthday party back in last May, which is kind of crazy to think that that was all the way in May. It feels like yesterday, but we’re finally getting this episode out and ready for all of you to listen to. It’s been a little backlogged with a lot of other things, but we’re back in the flow and

This episode and a lot of other amazing episodes are in the queue ready for all of you. So this episode with Dr. Nick was really, really great. We dove into a lot of different territory. We dove into plant medicine, alchemy, essential oil medicines. We even got into consciousness expansion and we talked about his story of healing addiction, particularly an alcohol addiction that he struggled with for quite some time, which anyone that knows him now.

probably wouldn’t be able to think that he went through such an addictive journey with alcohol. But it makes sense because essential oils and plant-based alchemy, they use alcohol as a solvent and as a delivery mechanism for plant-based medicines. using something that is essentially a poison and is a poisonous for most people’s health and bodily function and using it as a way to

deliver herbal medicine, that is the way of the wounded healer. That is the path of alchemy, essentially taking something that is a base metal or something that’s really just toxic, essentially. It’s a poison and turning it into a medicine. So that really is all about what Nick represents and what he’s all about. And I think that’s about it. This is a really great deep dive into a lot of different territory.

By the way, if you want to get his essential oils, you can go to essential oil wizardry.com. Use the coupon code life mastery. Again, the coupon code is life mastery, essential oil wizardry.com and you’ll get a nice discount. And he has an entire cornucopia of the most incredible and the most unique essential oils on the planet. Highly recommended. All right, without further ado.

Enjoy this podcast with Dr. Nick Berry.

Greetings and Aloha. Welcome to another episode of the Life Mastery podcast and welcome to the show. Dr. Nick.

Dr. Nick Berry
Thank you, Ronie. It’s a pleasure to be back.

Ronnie Landis
Yeah, it’s a pleasure to have you. It’s been many, moons, meaning many years since not only we’ve done a podcast, but since you and I have actually reconnected. And it was such a pleasure to get to reconnect with you in the physical many weeks ago and have you at my impromptu birthday party that I didn’t even know I was having until it happened. So it’s so good to have you there and to share in the magic of

of life, of friendship, and also just these creative vessels that we’ve created, like in terms of our work in the world and just the evolution of it. And I’m so excited to have this conversation with you to kind of like get up to date on a number of things, but especially when it comes to the incredible work that you’re doing in the essential oil elixir world.

You know, a lot of people may not realize this, people that are maybe familiar with your work because they’ve seen you on Ben Greenfield or many other podcasts, by the way. I was actually really surprised, not surprised, but I was really impressed when I went over all the podcasts that you’ve been on over the years. And I just saw so many notable names that I really, I had no idea. I wasn’t really surprised. I was just like, wow, Dr. Nick’s like,

He’s really taking the charge when it comes to this message on essential oils, which makes perfect sense because in my perspective, you are the guy like you are the head alchemist, elixir crafter, essential oil maestro that really helped to pioneer a modern day movement when it comes to essential oils. And you’re the best person that I know to talk about this.

this whole field, this whole topic of essential oils. So with that said, just really great to have you. And I know we’re gonna get into a lot of different things here.

Dr. Nick Berry
Well, thank you for your kind words, Ronnie, and I’m definitely very passionate about working with the plants and I’m excited to share with your audience today a message around my inspiration for alkeny.

Ronnie Landis
Hmm, beautiful. Yeah. And so I think the, maybe the best place for us to start is not to go too far back into the origin story, but I would love to get a sense of what was the impetus for you to get into something that’s very niche. And probably when you were getting into it, wasn’t very well represented outside of maybe niche books or niche folklore on alchemy or

plant medicines, and I don’t mean psychedelics, I mean using plants as medicinal, you know, components, you know, same way people do like plant, excuse me, like plant-based diets and herbalism, herbology, it’s in the same kind of field, but it’s a very unique component of it. And that’s what I’m curious about. Like what was the inspiration? Was this something that you were familiar with at a young age or is it something that kind of snuck up on you?

Dr. Nick Berry
I would say that my origin story, Ronnie, I trained as a pharmacist. graduated in 2009. And if I were to look back and tell you today, I simply went back to the origin of medicine in working with plants where pharmaceuticals are derived from.

And my aha moment and opportunities of blossoming into this world of working with botanical extracts started off as my work with my work around, I think it was 2011 when I started working with cannabis clinics as a pharmacist.

I recognize cannabis was a medicine, but I felt like it was being overused and abused. And I wanted to help people who are both using pharmaceutical drugs and cannabis to get the most out of their medicine. So when I started studying deeper about the cannabis plant, what I learned was most of the therapeutic components.

from the cannabis were associated with the cannabinoids, which everyone was familiar with then, and also the terpenes. And the terpenes was something that was not very highlighted at that juncture of time, but the terpenes are found everywhere in nature. All types of plants produce terpene molecules. So what is a terpene? A terpene is a

constituent that’s responsible for flavor and fragrance and it is biologically active or pharmacologically active at a very low concentration. And so when I learned of this, I wanted to know how might I best support our patients or clients to get the most out of their medicine while also

minimizing the negative effects or qualities of cannabis. So as I learned about terpenes, I had a peer who shared with me that essential oils are concentrated plant terpenes. And so they’re a natural mixture of that’s found in nature that

when you are steam distilling or using an extraction method to concentrate the essence of a plant down, let’s say a CO2 extract, you have a concentrate containing an assortment of different bioactive terpenes. And so I started experimenting with essential oils while I was working at cannabis clinics. And I was

infusing the oils with different cannabis mixtures, mostly topical, and patients were saying they were getting a lot of benefit with the topical medicine that I was helping to prepare. And so this was my gateway into the world of essential oils.

Ronnie Landis
Cannabis was the gateway drug into the essential oil world.

Dr. Nick Berry
That’s 100.

Ronnie Landis
That’s amazing. would be remiss and I don’t know if I’ll remember to bring it up. So I want to mention it now. You mentioned the deleterious effects of cannabis. And I think this is actually such an important thing just to highlight because there are drawbacks to cannabis. There’s very real drawbacks. And this is something I’ve experienced.

many times, like incorporating cannabis in different forms, different ways of administering it into my life. And this is such a big thing over the last couple of years with the legalization of cannabis. And we could say, that’s an omnipositive thing, or it has other agendas behind it to maybe slow people’s cognitive faculties or disassociate people or numb them out into like a slow, a lull.

in terms of how they’re operating in their life, maybe not being able to make like really, really important or conscientious decisions about what they’re doing in their life, medicating themselves essentially. And there’s a time and place for that, right? There is a time and place for medication. And that’s part of what we’re talking about. You came from a pharmaceutical or a pharmacy background and you were looking at a way to help people

heal themselves without necessarily medicating themselves, right? I think that’s a really important distinction. So I’m just curious, like what comes up for you as we segue talking about cannabis, what are some of the drawbacks that you experienced or that you witnessed affecting people?

Dr. Nick Berry
A difficulty in concentration, staying focused and reaching a higher tier of goals and aspirations. I find that sometimes it creates a cloudiness that people experience. And maybe I can share my own experience. When I use cannabis,

I find that there’s less clarity of the mind, a reduction of focus, concentration and moving towards goals. There’s more of an acceptance and being present and enjoying the moment. I also find it more difficult to go into my emotions. I feel I have the perception that

I feel good in this moment. I don’t want to talk about things that are uncomfortable and I’ll just slide it under the ethereal rug. you know, I have met people that use cannabis in a good, constructive and positive way. And so I recognize that cannabis is a medicine. I just don’t think it is the medicine. And I think it’s

constantly a dance of listening to that fine line between use and abuse.

Ronnie Landis
Hmm, perfectly summed up. Yeah, I really appreciate that. Okay, great. Well, now that we got that out of the way. So, yeah, there’s so many directions I want to go into this and I want to like set a foundation so

talking about essential oils, maybe even from that perspective of what you just explained with the cannabis and some of the drawbacks and also why some people gravitate towards it, like that acceptance of the moment, that acceptance of like being okay in this moment. I think that’s something that a lot of people are challenged by, myself at different points too, know, especially if we’re prone to overwhelm or anxiety.

we’re going to gravitate towards something to to medicate those feelings. Otherwise, life just feels like it’s too much a lot of times. And so talking about the essential oils and the benefits that they have for people without creating a cloudiness, without creating this altered state in their consciousness, but actually to help them tune in to the moment, but to be able to pursue their goals.

with maybe like a little bit of a softening of that dross or that density that oftentimes we feel in this world that is just very chaotic a lot of times. So I’m curious, where can we go when it comes to the essential oil conversation from this?

Dr. Nick Berry
Yeah, so if you’re interested in hearing some of my initial observations, when I was working at cannabis clinics doing consulting, I started experimenting with aerating different essential oils into different cannabis material. And so what I would do is I would…

put some essential oil on a piece of paper in a closed jar with some cannabis flowers. And over the course of about one to two days, the flowers would suck up some of these aromatic molecules. And I experimented mostly with that at that time, some citrus oils, rosemary, peppermint, lavender.

And what I was noticing was when I enhanced the cannabis with some of these different essential oils, it really changed the effects of the cognitive function. So peppermint and rosemary, for instance, I noticed a little bit more clarity of the head, being able to focus more and

I think the euphoria, the high, if you will, was still present, but you were more perceptive to your cognitive awareness. And so it almost seemed like you were less high and more focused. So that was one success that I perceived. Also with lavender, when I infused lavender essential oil, which is rich in linalool, which is also found in

different types of cannabis strains, oftentimes different indica strains. What I found was that it helped to relax the nervous system on a deeper level. And for whatever reason, whenever I combined essential oils with the cannabis, it really seemed to sharpen the mind. Even though with the lavender, I would be more calm and soothed, I also felt more clear.

Again, I would almost say less high, if you will, but I think the cognitive function was just performing at a higher level. And so those are some interesting observations I made in working at cannabis clinics back in the day.

Ronnie Landis
Yeah, and I think those are very good perceptual awarenesses to have because this whole idea of getting high is really just an is is an attempt to expand one’s own perceptual awareness or to expand one’s own consciousness, right? Their state of being, in other words.

you know, they want to change their state from one radio station into another. And I found with cannabis, like most things that alter your mind, your alter your state of being, there’s a fine line. And I noticed for me, when I would do cannabis, I would try to find the right minimal doses just to get myself a little bit of an uptip. Because I knew if I passed that, it would just, the…

it might give me a short term kind of like euphoria, a, you know, just my nervous system could breathe. But then followed by that would be potentially even more overwhelmed, even more of an exaggeration of the anxiety that I at the time was trying to, I was trying to release myself from, which is also another thing of like, does this cause it or does it reveal it? That’s a whole other conversation.

But what I feel is really important about the essential oil conversation is that we’re dealing with the subtle energies. not necessarily dealing with, you know, again, like pharmaceuticals or SSRIs or antidepressants. These components, these molecules, if you will, these plant-based molecules, they have the ability to support with what somebody would do like an antidepressant for.

but they’re not artificial, they’re not compartmentalized, and they’re not triggering your neurotransmitter system to create a deficit, right? So in other words, to create a dependency, which is obviously what pharmaceuticals do. They create a dependency so you need more of the thing in order to get the same or less of a result. And that’s good description of like what a drug is.

Dr. Nick Berry
I’ll piggyback on that, Ronnie. So a whole plant essence is going to have a multitude of different constituents and in nature, it balances the overall result. And so with pharmaceuticals, these are single agent molecules that oftentimes have a very strong effect.

on one or several different receptor sites. And so it, when those drugs work as agonists or antagonists and they turn on or turn off a certain set of receptors, it’s creating a strong reaction in the body, which typically has downstream effects. as you’re saying, if you’re stepping on the gas so strongly and

the drug wears off, you may have a a repercussion of that.

or full constituents. And when you’re taking the whole plant, there’s an innate intelligence that’s found on the plant, in the plant. And I’m not only talking about an esoteric intelligence, but also a physiological and pharmacological intelligence that’s naturally balanced. You know, there’s certain tumor promoting constituents that are found in many types of

plants and when you look closer at the symphony of molecules found inside of these plants, they’ll also be balanced with certain molecules that have been found to reduce tumor genesis. this is the beauty of whole plant extracts is they are balanced in nature and tend to have different effects. You are also mentioning

that these essential oils are more subtle. And I would agree with that statement. I would also say that they are also concentrated. so essential oils, they work on the physical, the emotional, the spiritual, the energetic bodies and realms.

And so some of the subtleties might be in the emotional side or the spiritual side. And maybe you’re just getting a physical boost of inhaling some basil or some rosemary. Or maybe you’re able to tune into some of the subtle emotional shifts associated with a beautiful Bulgarian rose absolute or some rose geranium. You know, an example of this is

One of the most powerful extracts that I’ve ever found to help with forgiveness associated with a transitioning relationship is rose geranium essential oil. And I’ve had dozens of people over the past decade share with me how powerful this was in helping them to release the anger that they were holding on in the projections and

with the ability to change their story associated with this person that they loved so deeply. And it’s a more subtle quality that certain people will be open to perceiving. What I feel from the Rojranium, for instance, in that case is a softening of the attachment of the anger associating in a transitioning relationship.

And that’s a really powerful statement because sometimes we get so stuck with our anger and frustration and it makes it difficult to pivot into what I want to create next and or even maintaining some type of relationship with that other party.

Ronnie Landis
Yeah, that was a really beautiful explanation. And I think that’s really, that’s super practical and really important because we’re always going through some sort of transition in life. Everything is changing. Everything is subject to change. And this rigidity that is so prevalent in the human experience and you know, Lord knows that I navigate that all the time. And I’m thinking like,

There’s a few thoughts that are coming to my mind, but I want to own it. I’ll put those to the side for now. I want to, I want to stay on this point because for a lot of people that are going through something right now, this could be really, really important for them. One thing that was coming up for me too, while you were speaking is also maybe explaining to people the physiological administration principle of inhaling.

whether it’s through a diffuser or it’s through, you know, wiping or not wiping, but moisturizing the essential oils in your hand and breathing it through the sinus cavity, because we can talk topically, you have all these receptor sites on your skin and your skin is the largest organ of both detoxification and administration for whatever you’re putting on in and goes straight into the bloodstream.

you’re taking a tincture or you’re eating food and that’s going through the digestive system and the salivary glands. I think one piece that still isn’t super well understood is how through the sinus cavity, essences or compounds can be inhaled and what’s the physiological process for that.

Dr. Nick Berry
Yeah, so when we’re inhaling essential oils, the volatile aromatics that are being breathed in through our nose are going to, they’re going to pass through our nose into our lungs. On their way, they’re going to affect the hippocampus, the amygdala. This is one of the reasons why when you have a smell,

that is reminiscent of a previous time. Let’s give the example of a beautiful jasmine bush growing outside your grandmother’s house. And you’re walking by, you’re walking by, you’re in the city. All of a sudden you get a whiff and you remember your childhood as you’re walking. And you can’t quite register, but you have this feeling of your grandmother.

The sense of smell is one of the few senses, I believe it’s the only sense that the reaction occurs before the conscious mind is aware of it. And so it triggers the limbic system and you’re instantaneously transported into your past while you’re still taking action in the present moment. So that’s one powerful

effect associated with the essential oils. So now you’re going to pass through the nose into the lungs. In the lungs, the volatile aromatics are going to pass through the avioli into the bloodstream immediately. And so it’s a very rapid onset when you’re inhaling the essential oils where

Ronnie Landis
Mmm.

Dr. Nick Berry
the essential oils are going to be absorbed in through your bloodstream immediately. So this is how they’re pharmacologically active in the body and have such a quick response rate.

Ronnie Landis
Mm, that was a beautiful explanation. And that actually was a perfect intuitive continuation of what you were just explaining. Because now if we understand that there’s a pathway to deliver organic compounds that can support the limbic system, now physiologically it’s understandable why what you just said about helping people move through

I’m challenging emotions is actually what it is it’s not a theory on there is a there’s a spiritual component for sure. But there’s a very physiological response of the limbic system which is basically what records all the emotional imprints of our lived experience. And if you couple that with the dysregulation of the sympathetic nervous system in our day and time that most of us despite all the.

all the regulatory processes of breath work and cold, cold, hot therapy and, know, whatever we’re doing for our sleep and recovery and our, our emotional processing and our parts work and all the things, we’re all still subject to this thing called sympathetic overload. And so that just, that just pieced in something for me to understand, even in my own practice of using essential oils, how this directly affects

probably the most important functional aspect of how I process emotions and how I can move through things, not move through it with my mind, because that we can get stuck in like, I’ve forgiven this person, or I’ve moved through this thing. But why do these things keep reoccurring in my life? Why do I keep having these triggers or these sympathetic reactions if I’ve already moved on per se? But the system hasn’t moved on. The system is still stuck in a form of stasis.

And so what I’m hearing is that the essential oils through the way that it’s administered through the sinuses into the limbic system or helps the limbic system unwind might be a better way of putting it. It can actually support us in moving forward with our life with more grace.

Dr. Nick Berry
I really love where you took all of that, Ronnie, and absolutely. And maybe there’s some sense that are associated with a more difficult time for an individual and that can open that emotion up in the present moment to be worked through from a more mature perspective as well. I’ve met people that were very triggered by a specific sense, yet

felt like there was some work to be done with the aroma or with the pure oil. And so I think everyone’s at a different stage of their development and listening to your body, your emotions and how to progress in one’s own healing path is the ultimate journey.

Ronnie Landis
Beautiful, beautifully said. So the next thing that comes up for me, while I’m kind of on this track of like the practical application of these things, there’s another thing that came up for me when I actually met up with you and I felt this strong impulse to buy a whole set of essential oils. And this has been in my field for a long time, but again, it’s more of that subtle awareness of subtle energies versus like

supplements. Like I have a ton of supplements. I’ve been deep in that world forever. And there’s something about the essential oils that is emblematic of the frequency of prosperity. And I got this whole download and I realized, this is like a treasure set. Like my supplements are not don’t necessarily invigorate the sense of like abundance or prosperity. I mean, given like it is a form of prosperity to have

the luxury, I guess you would say, or the option to have, you know, all your designer detox and jing herbs and all that kind of thing. But there’s a different frequency for everyone that’s watching this on YouTube. There’s a different frequency to like these little bottles and these Myron glass impenetrable by every frequency of penetrating light, except 360 nanometers, which is actually the frequency that scrambles cancer cells.

just so you know, that’s the Myron glass, the most powerful, most protective glass in the world that all of these are encased in. And there’s something, there’s a frequency tuning fork that I experience when I hold it, when I look at it, when I have all my essential oils all lined up on my altar or in a little case, which I’m excited to get from you soon. It’s a treasure vault, really.

And so there’s something to that. I’m curious what you have to say about it when it comes to the frequency or even the manifestation of prosperity and abundance in our life.

Dr. Nick Berry
So I love that you’re tuning into the subtle energies and vibrations that are found and present in our bottles. So maybe I’ll speak to that. It’s funny that you mentioned every bottle feels like an individualized, very specific tuning fork. And I perceive that the oils, they do resonate in that way. They have

very targeted expressions that are also less specific. But one thing that’s unique about our company, Essential Oil Wizardry, is when we receive our pure CO2 extracts, our floral absolutes, or our pure essential oils, we put all of our oils through numerous activation processes.

We actually tune all of our blends in a set of 432-hertz crystal bowls. wow. And I love that you’re literally feeling the buzzing and the vibration and the potency of them ringing like tuning forks because we do tune our oils. So some of the processes we use to activate the potency of our ingredients

We use some biogeometry tools and that’s said to help to enhance the BG3 energies which are found in sacred sites around the world. I haven’t studied biogeometry directly but I have had biogeometry students test our oils and they say, hey, your oils are BG3 activated. That’s really cool.

Ronnie Landis
Not to to cut you off, I was thinking you and Dr. Robert Gilbert get to have a conversation. I get to have a conversation with him sometime. But he just for everyone listening, when you mentioned biogeometry, he’s kind of like the biggest voice in the most just one of the actually most interesting people in the world to listen to.

and ascended sage in this life, but he, one of his biggest things is about biogeometry and the science and intricacies of that. So I was just, I was just thinking about him when you mentioned that.

Dr. Nick Berry
I that. Yeah, I’ve heard him speak before and Dr. Ibrahim Karim is the founder of biogeometry. so that’s one of the ways that we activate our oils. use an arc crystal to enhance the energetics of our oils, all of our blends.

I would say maybe about 70 to 80 % of our blends are enhanced with an Ormus enhanced fractionated coconut oil. And so we extract Dead Sea Salt, Celtic Sea Salt using a carrier oil and that enriches it with minerals. And what we’ve noticed is that enhances the uptake. It allows the oil to smell longer on the skin.

and it also enhances the potency of the aromatics. So these are numerous different tools and technologies that we use. And we have a list, a complete list of all the different enhancements we do with our oils on our website at essentialoilwizardry.com under our blog section.

Ronnie Landis
Incredible, incredible. Yeah. And you know, obviously people can go to the website and do further research and every, you know, every one of these sacred bottles is a completely different alchemical configuration of ingredients. So we don’t want to spend the podcast going into all the ins and outs, but I definitely would like to go into, so I’m holding everyone that can see I’m holding a bottle of Frank Merrin gold. This is the Holy Trinity right now.

you’ve ever heard something called the Bible. And so at the bottom, it says oil of gold or ms enhanced fractionated coconut oil, which you just mentioned, I know what that is. But I want to know from your perspective, what that is like, what what is or ms enhanced fractionated coconut oil.

Dr. Nick Berry
Yep, so I did elucidate it some moments ago. We extract dead sea salt and Celtic sea salt.

Ronnie Landis
Well,

that’s how the Ormus is coming from. Okay, got it.

Dr. Nick Berry
Yeah, and so that creates an enhanced concentration of M-state minerals that have a higher energetic profile that saturates the oil. And so you’ll almost see less translucency. There’s a higher mineral content inside of our fractionated coconut oil, which is enhanced with the oranis.

we find that it really enhances the absorption, lasts longer on the skin, it enhances the aroma potential as well.

Ronnie Landis
Okay, interesting. Well, thought that just came to my mind, and we don’t have to go too deep into this, but I just felt like mentioning it. So for all the people that have listened to that Terrence Howard interview on Joe Rogan, where he’s talking about Walter Russell, and his alternative periodic table, the elements essentially, so we have like Mendeleev’s periodic table, the elements.

90 plus minerals that power the human body that power all like carbon based life forms. Now, there’s a whole other there’s a whole other thing that’s not on the periodic table because they’re not based in matter. They’re not based in carbon dating matter. You can’t in other words, you can’t detect certain elements based on the way that they measure, you know, matter. That’s the

easiest way of putting it. There’s other elements that exist in our biosphere, right? And that exists or did exist within all sentient life forms. And so this thing on Ormis is really interesting. And so the point I’m just making or theorizing anyways, is if anyone’s listened to that podcast, which was apparently super controversial, all he was explaining to me when he said that

there’s an alternate periodic table that does not fit into the materialistic table of the elements is what you just said, quote unquote, M-state elements or Ormiss orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements, which, know, through like people like David Wolf and the whole Ormiss kind of like crowd over the years, we’re aware of, but I just wanted to point that out maybe just for my own point in purpose. Maybe nobody will even understand what I’m talking about.

But that’s what I think he’s talking about without him even maybe knowing what he’s talking about. In other words, there’s elements that exist that don’t fit on the periodic table of the elements that most science is kind of foundationalized in.

Dr. Nick Berry
I appreciate you sharing and reflecting that. It’s probably been five or 10 years since I’ve seen the alternative, you said it’s Walter Russell’s periodic table of elements. It’s a very intriguing perception of reality and it seems to tie different things about what we know about the known world on that.

actual charts. So thanks for bringing that into our awareness.

Ronnie Landis
Yeah, well, thank you for bringing it into creation. And so that also brings in, that kind of grounds in this whole thing on like a theoric energy, right? Because a lot of people, if they haven’t studied Chinese medicine in the element theory, or they haven’t done a lot of like energetic work, they’re not perceptive to energy per se.

then they may not quite understand when we say subtle energies or etheric energies, or maybe that’s just some kind of new age, hoo-hah terminology to explain things that we don’t understand. But it actually is very understandable. It is part of a scientific perspective. It’s just an evolving science, more of a quantum science that actually, that you can experience. And these products are representative of

the, you know, correct me if I’m wrong or if I’m off, but my opinion is that these products are like a representation of a bridge between very solid pharmacological science that you can measure, taste, touch and see, and you can measure it out very well. And then there’s other certain elements that have an extra quality about them.

Dr. Nick Berry
I agree with what you’re sharing, Ronnie. You know, when people tend to try our different oils and tinctures, we have such amazing feedback from people that there’s something unique, there’s something different, there’s something special about our oils. And I’m sharing with everybody transparently here, here’s some of the techniques we do to bring our oils and our tinctures to that next level.

And it’s a felt and you can appreciate the fineness of the scent. can taste it, you can feel it in your body, you can observe a higher level of effects and subtleties. And so there is something truly unique about the formulations that we produce.

Ronnie Landis
Beautiful, beautiful. Well, to limit any other potential digressions that I could make in this conversation, I do want to hone in on a few things. So I have a bunch of these products, you know, and sitting in front of me that I pulled up. And I don’t want to get super deep into each one, but I’m also like just playing with I just kind of like I like having it in my hand. I like having it here. I like to play with it.

And so I’m holding up a positive transmission. holding up a super chakra formulation. And I’m curious, you know, one thing that you had mentioned before is you guys create custom blends for people. have all these, these set of blends that you’ve created and you’ve also created with other, other healers and other, other prominent people in the health space, such as like Paul check.

Ben Greenfield, know Aubrey Marcus, you’ve worked with him and he actually is co-produced with you a special ointment that I had that I didn’t even realize that you were the formulator for until you pointed it out when you saw it on my table. And I know that you’ve worked with many other people, Wade Lightheart, on creating very specialized formulations with them or for them. So I’m curious if you want to speak about that.

And also, is that something that you offer to the general public?

Dr. Nick Berry
Yeah, so helping to develop specific custom blends for individuals and brands is one of my highest joys. There’s a special type of alchemy which occurs when someone shares their intention of what they want the bottle to, what they want the oil to smell like, what they want the effects to feel like.

on the physiological shifts they want to experience and where they want to go and grow by using the oil. so it’s doing a custom blend. I tap into a place that I don’t have access to, and that is in collaboration with someone else’s consciousness. And so by them laying out the groundwork and the intentions of what they want to create,

I get out of my own way and I allow their vision to guide the formulation. And it’s a really special process to witness because at this point in my development, it’s a very intuitive process. I take all of those forward directions that an individual wants to move forward with and I will

take that information and I’ll tune in with all of our different oils. And the oils will actually tell me what wants to go into a formulation and what wants to, how much of every oil, what order they want to go in. And so it’s really a matter of getting out of my own way and utilizing my gifts. And it’s such a special,

opportunity to be able to create with someone.

Ronnie Landis
Mm-hmm. Beautiful. That’s amazing. And that’s something I’m definitely going to want to explore with you in the near future, especially when you told me about creating a special blend for your wedding with your beloved.

And that was really intriguing idea to me. And then when you said it, made complete sense. was like, of course, that makes complete sense. And that’s something that I’m definitely going to enlist your support in as well to like ceremonialize or to concretize and to form a bottle up that the essence of such a sacred experience. And if anyone’s listening and you are on route to getting married,

That’s actually a really cool idea you might want to explore with Dr. Nick.

Dr. Nick Berry
Thanks, Ronnie. Yeah, my wife and I got married last year, July 7th, 2023. So we got married on 777. So the formulation we co-created is called Fresh Love. And it was actually the first blend that we crafted together.

We’ve been together for five years now and I think the universe wanted our first blend to be something really epic and meaningful together. And we created 250 bottles of fresh love and we gifted one out to every person in our wedding and shared a few within the community. I think we still have…

maybe 20 or 30 bottles on our website still. But it was a really special to hone our love and channel it into an expression through the plants and be able to memorialize the special ceremony of our love and union. And to be able to gift that to our community, our friends, our family.

And, you know, it’s still a year later. And just last week, I heard a friend, they came up to me and Ellen and said, I really love fresh love. I put it on every morning and it just warms my heart and it brings me back to your special wedding ceremony. And that’s really, really powerful. And it’s so special to be able to help to cultivate a

an intention expressed through the plants to be able to put it into bottles and to make that vision manifest through any person that experiences the oils in these bottles.

Ronnie Landis
Beautiful, Well.

There’s another area that I want to go into with you while we still have a little bit of time here. When we got together, we talked a little bit about addiction and we talked about our personal navigation of that. also, as you know, I wrote a book on addiction and that’s been a big part of my work over the last handful of years and it’s ever evolving. I’m curious, you know, can’t remember, what was it? Did we talk about, it alcohol?

I know that we talked about tobacco, like that’s a journey that I’ve been on, but I don’t remember, was it alcohol that you had gone through at one point in your life? Okay.

Dr. Nick Berry
Yes.

Yeah, I’m to open that up.

Ronnie Landis
Yeah, I’d love to open that up. And yeah, I’ll leave it at that.

Dr. Nick Berry
Okay, so what I’ll share is my own unique story here. And I also want to express that even though these pathways exist in my experience has been what it is, I am not inviting anyone to challenge their relationship or patterning with addiction in a way that is potentially hazardous for their overall or

potentially detrimental to their life.

Ronnie Landis
What do you mean by that? I’m curious. When you they’re here to challenge their patterning.

Dr. Nick Berry
So maybe what I’ll do is I’ll share my story, my relationship with alcohol and how that’s evolved over my life. that will, I think that will answer that question, Ronnie. So when I was a teenager, I developed a relationship with alcohol where I was drinking about a fifth of vodka every day.

like 240 ounces or a fifth of vodka. And I did this for about a year. I was numbing from some severe sadness and pain associated with my parents’ divorce, which took them 10 years in court to complete. And I felt like I didn’t have any control over my life. And

And so I was abusing alcohol until I got kicked out of high school or I got expelled from my high school. And at this point, I had lost a lot of my freedoms as a child and I wasn’t allowed to see my friends and I was very sad. I was originally numbing myself with

cannabis. the reason I got into cannabis and alcohol was because my friends at the time were were using and at the same time, my parents and my familial unit was shattering and breaking apart. My friends started using drugs and I didn’t want to get started in this exploration.

I felt scared and I wasn’t really interested in it. But, you know, some children when they’re adolescents are very cruel and mean and I was literally told that I would be kicked out of my friend group if I didn’t want to explore those things. And so I felt alone and eventually I grew to liking to numb myself.

And when I got caught smoking cannabis and was threatened with drug tests, that’s when I transitioned my behavioral habit with cannabis and started utilizing alcohol daily. And it got to the point where my liver would burn when I didn’t have alcohol in it. And I was drinking

Probably most days, let’s say six plus days a week, that would be my guess. And I did this for about a year until I got expelled from school. so I went cold turkey at a point and the point that I was able to go cold turkey was through a journey with psychedelic mushrooms.

And through that experience, I was able to realize that one of the reasons I was abusing my body in that way was that I didn’t feel like I had control of my life. And I was looking to get back at my mother, who I judged to be

who had control over my life. And so I was drinking to numb my pain and to get back at her because I wasn’t supposed to be doing these things. And the mushrooms awakened me. I realized that I wanted to have a different life path than my parents. wanted to live my dreams and I wanted to be successful.

I realized that I wasn’t getting back at my mother. I was actually hurting myself with my decisions to abuse alcohol in the ways that I was. And so I went cold turkey and I didn’t use alcohol until I got into college.

And I was dating a woman who worked at a fine restaurant and winery. And so we started, one of the ways we would get pleasure together is we would go and have a really nice dinner with a fine bottle of wine. Also, I reactivated my desire for alcohol and kind of the physiological addiction associated with that.

during pharmacy school as well, as alcohol was very popular amongst my peers. And so I went cold turkey from alcohol again when I was 24. I’m now 39. And I’ve been able to go in very deep into my relationship and my quote unquote

Ronnie Landis
I bet.

Dr. Nick Berry
previous addiction in my own life. And so this is where I want to share my own personal experience and not suggest that my experience is going to be similar to someone else’s. But it’s a very deep alchemical perspective on shifting relationship with substance. around that time, I

was very happy and satisfied with my life. And I didn’t feel like I was seeking anything. And I…

I-

I think it’s been something like six or seven years since I first challenged my addiction or my alcoholism, which doesn’t apply as a label to me anymore. And what I noticed when I was around 24 was if I had a sip of beer, I would physiologically have withdrawals for a week,

two weeks sometimes. And so that keyed me into that it was something more than a physiological addiction, that there was a psychological and emotional component to it. I ended up doing a lot of emotional freedom techniques and I got to the root associated with why I numbed myself using alcohol as a teenager. And it was associated with the pain

of my parents transitioning relationship, their divorce. And as I did work on that, it uncoupled the physiological addiction and the response I got from when I drank alcohol. But I still had no desire to drink alcohol. And to this day,

Alcohol is not really a substance that I resonate with, but I’ll share more about my current relationship with it as I move forward in time. So I can’t pinpoint the exact year, maybe about 2014, 2016, I met a man who

distilled his own alcohol using honey. He would ferment the honey to develop a mead. He would distill the mead into a high proof alcohol and he would take that to produce what he calls honey shine. And I started using his honey shine for a great proportion of our tinctures and products.

And during this whole time, I still was looking at my own consciousness on why can I take a drop or a dropper full or several droppers full of tincture and I have no physiological craving? What happened for me after 2014 was…

I didn’t crave any alcohol and I didn’t have the physiological responses of addiction. But if I drank often, I would repattern that old behavior. And so probably around 2016, and this is gonna be something that’s probably very interesting and

I wouldn’t be shocked if you’ve never heard something like this, but it was very powerful to my current understanding around alcohol. So I have a friend whom I haven’t connected with for a number of years, but he had reached out to me and he was claiming that he was producing tinctures which were made out of

water, alcohol, trace minerals imprinted with the sun and vibratory information that would simulate different types of psychedelic experiences. so I didn’t really have much. I was like, okay, that sounds really interesting. Go ahead and send me some. I’ll give them a try. And this was around the time that I had

really reduced my use of psychedelics and I thought that this was an interesting way to explore my consciousness with less of a crash and less intensity. And so when he sent me these tinctures, I tried numerous ones that offered similar effects to LSD, to mushrooms, to

certain types of phenylethylamines to a BOGA and these tinctures were very very interesting. They were not even homeopathic because there was never any illegal substance that were put into any of these bottles. It was a vibratory signature which was imprinted using sunlight and a process that he used and

Let’s just say that these tinctures were very similar to the effects. Like the LSD, I would be going for six to 10 hours and it was a clear expression. It was easier on the body to assimilate and it was a very powerful and unique experience.

So I’m sharing this because it’s part of my evolution and awareness of alcohol as a substance, as a medicine, and as a drug. So as he taught me more about how he does this process, he described to me that alcohol on a molecular level is like a metal, and you can inscribe it with a charge or with information, and it’s imprinted.

similarly to water, but it’s less malleable. And once you imprint it, it holds that charge, that intelligence, that information, and it doesn’t let go.

Ronnie Landis
Interesting.

Dr. Nick Berry
Synthesizing this information through my experience of trying these different tinctures and exploring and knowing how toxic my exploration with alcohol was growing up as a teenager. You think about these companies that are producing alcohol these days. Their intention is to make as much money as they can to get, you know,

to harm people, it’s not to empower people. Alcohol is not used as a medicine or a preservative or as a solvent to create medicine as it was before our modern days. And so when I met Benjamin Pixie and I learned that he was taking this honey shine, which was

Basically, alcohol produced by his alchemy, his joy, by the bees, by the rich nectar of the flowers, there felt like there was a different vibration associated with the alcohol. And one of the things that I’ve learned is alcohol is a substance that drains your life force energy.

And so when you consume alcohol, it’s going to suck your life force energy and you pee it out. something that Benjamin does is he infuses his different high proof potions with different types of plants. And so it takes a life force energy from the plants and it infuses it into the alcohol as a delivery system.

And so rather than it sucking life force energy with a mild usage, it actually provides some life force energy. And so it took me a number of years after knowing Benjamin to be open to taking some of his potions, swishing them around my mouth and spitting them out.

and to allow the vibration of the medicine to come into my field with a minute absorption of alcohol. And I noticed there was something different. I didn’t have a craving. I wasn’t seeking it. I didn’t have physiological withdrawals for one to two weeks. And it took several years after spitting and just being around the alcohol.

where at some point I was open to consuming some of it. And it’s really interesting and powerful to be able to have the inner knowing that if I choose to consume a very high quality alcohol that’s alchemically produced, I mean, to this day since 2009,

everything I’ve consumed that’s been alcohol, which is not often, has been an alchemical spirit. maybe a wedding or, maybe a wedding or two, I’ve, I’ve had, like a small glass of wine, but I’m very, very specific of what alcohol I choose to put in my body if or when I do. And when I approach it with right relationship, so

I don’t consume alcohol because I’m unhappy. And if I am feeling unhappy, I’m not gonna consume alcohol. That’s a dig to the bottom, a race to the bottom, if you will. And so I’ve been able to reprogram my relationship and understanding of if I’m going to consume alcohol, it’s going to have a medicinal value.

And I’m also not choosing to drink half a bottle or a bottle of a high spirit or a mead. And I’ve had those days. I have consumed half a bottle of mead with my love before. But there’s not necessarily a desire for that. I don’t feel longing. And I don’t really like the effects of alcohol.

So my relationship with alcohol is one that is more conscientious. I’m very specific with what I put into my body. there’s something so freeing, Ronnie. I feel free of addiction to cannabis and to alcohol. And younger versions of myself felt free from

the use of alcohol or cannabis, but I felt very afraid. Like I feel full within myself, but stay away from me. I don’t want anything to do with it. Now I can have it or not have it. And it, doesn’t consume any of my consciousness. Um, I don’t use cannabis. It’s, regularly. It’s not my medicine. I think it’s been, I don’t know a year, year and a half.

maybe two years at this point. I explored with it for probably about a year and a half with Ellen. And we just realized that it wasn’t serving our relationship or our goals and where we wanted to go. And I like that it has no power over me. I’m not resistant against it and I don’t desire it. The same thing is true about alcohol in my life now in the sense that

I have some high quality plant infused meads and potions and I probably drink them monthly-ish. You know, sometimes it’ll be three or six months where I don’t have like a little shot with friends and sometimes it’ll be monthly. But it’s not something that takes up my mental band.

with because I don’t have a problem with it. I can feel good and free and enjoying them and or not. And so this was the story that I wanted to share with you of how I unraveled my story around addiction and my deeper alchemical understanding associated with alcohol and

I wanted to also express that just because I’ve been able to healthfully reintegrate alcohol into my life, it doesn’t mean that it’s a great idea for anyone listening to this message to experiment with themselves and their body because they may or may not have a similar experience. And so that was my initial warning that I was sharing, Ronnie, around

This message may or may not be for everybody.

Ronnie Landis
Yeah. Well, first of all, thank you for taking us through that deep dive. I never really heard anyone break down their alcohol experience and also the kind of the multidimensional constituents of alcohol. mean, all that makes complete sense to me. And I’ve even written about alcohol in my addiction free lifestyle book with a similar kind of notion of the different

the different energetics that it has, but you, really grounded it and took it in a different direction from your own lived experience. And I’m really glad that we went into that because I know just listening to that is going to help expand somebody’s consciousness and their conscientiousness and help them make correct decisions that are really best for them. and just have the awareness to do that, you know, because with addiction, it’s, very sneaky and

You take breaks from things and you feel really good, but then you feel like, okay, well, maybe I can reintegrate that, but maybe it’s too soon or maybe it should not be at all. And that’s part of the learning lesson and the learning curve of it. With alcohol, I’d say for most people, it’s probably better not to mess with that at this stage, especially if you’re really, if you’re really want to protect your consciousness and also just your physiology.

it’s probably not the best thing for you. But especially if you’re coming out of a slippery slope relationship with it, it’s one of those things that just, it’s just a net negative most of the time. But then if you are into alchemy or herbology, then there, there are practical uses for it, but it’s a different, it’s a different like medium. You’re not, you’re not taking a tincture and taking it like a shot, right? You’re taking a little drop to get the medicine of

the herb or the substance, you’re not doing it for the alcohol itself, which is just like really meant to be, like you said, a solvent or a delivery mechanism for medicine. But we take out the medicine and we just leave what becomes a poison. And then we’re trying to get high or trying to alter our state on that. And so I really appreciate you bringing that all to our awareness.

Dr. Nick Berry
Yeah, absolutely, Ronnie. And what you were sharing about, I guess I’ll go back a little bit. One of my pieces of unwinding was a knowing that I can have a tincture and not have a physiological craving or response to the alcohol in it. And that opened up a door and a possibility for me of

How can I unlock and release this idea of being an alcoholic? Because I know I’m not craving the physical substance when I’m using it with intention and when it’s filled with medicine. Another thing that this also brings up is I had some clients about a decade ago that were seeing a lot of clients associated with addiction.

And they asked me, what would you use for a patient that is working or struggling with addiction? And I took that intention and a formulation channeled through. And the formulation which channeled through, which is very interesting, Ronnie, is called Release. And

I want to be clear not to be making any medical claims. That isn’t the intention. Release is about helping to develop new habits and patterns. so what I found when I was using Release, I used it for when I was exploring tobacco more heavily. And when I was eating a lot of like

fruit right before I went to bed because I was, my life was unbalanced. I would get these cravings for sugar before I went to bed. And what I’ve noticed when I use Release is it brings a higher level of intention to my actions in that moment. There’s different ingredients in there which are

euphoric, stimulate the liver, help to balance blood sugar levels, and help to satiate appetite, and also deliver a level of euphoria as well. And so when I was using Release Daily, what would happen is I would go to my trigger, so I would be at the lab creating for 10 to 14 hours.

I would go back home, it would be 10 o’clock, and right when I go to grab the orange, all of a sudden I had this subconscious question where it says, you really want this orange right now?

Ronnie Landis
Do you really want this cigarette right now? Do you really want this pot right now? Whatever the exactly I can see that so many times in my life.

Dr. Nick Berry
And when asked the question, there was days where I said, actually, I’m going to bed. I’m not really hungry right now. I don’t need this.

Ronnie Landis
I really want to watch Netflix right now.

Dr. Nick Berry
Exactly.

And sometimes the answer was, I had a long hard day, I want a food party right now. And it was like, okay, and I would just eat it. So it helped to bring more consciousness to my decisions. And in the moment, I would get this question of when I was approached with my trigger, I would be invited to reflect on my decision. And so that’s a really powerful tool.

I’ve had people share with me different success stories around all different types of substances or behavior patternings. So that’s a really unique tool, our release tincture.

Ronnie Landis
Amazing. Amazing. Another thing I want to mention too, before we close out, the Kava Chill. I got this big, bottle of Kava Chill here. And this is actually, I just had this delivered. I ran through the other bottle. whether it’s, I mean, I could imagine anyone that’s transitioning off alcohol, cannabis in particular, anything that creates like a cloudiness, which

the which the what’s the word I’m looking for? The trick, the Faustian trick is that it makes here goes the balloons again, if you’re only if you can see on YouTube, you can see that. So the Faustian bargain, the Faustian trick, which is actually just a cloud, it’s just an overlay over your consciousness, that grogginess is like, oh, this helps me go to sleep, right? This is my sleep, my nightcap, right? The alcohol, the cannabis.

The Kava Chill I found has actually been super supportive for me transitioning into sleep. And I’ve been able to sleep a lot better, partly because I don’t, you know, and I’m going to call myself out here in public and this is part of my dopamine protocol, but I’m a human being. I’m not perfect. I go in cycles. I turn my phone off and put it in a different room. Like an hour before I’m getting ready to go to sleep. just, I just have gotten the habit of turning the phone off.

and getting off the technology and then laying down, resting, reading a book, something like that. I’ll take two droppers of the Kava Chill and it just chills me out, but there’s no grogginess. I’m just like ready to chill. I’m ready to just close my eyes, turn my brain off and get ready to go to sleep. So I wanted to make a mention of that because that is one of my favorite products.

Dr. Nick Berry
I’m so happy to hear how that’s treating you, Ronnie. Kavachil is, I would judge it to be one of our most potent sleep formulations that is really relaxing and calming. I find if I have a lot of information in my mind and I need to shut it off and turn it off, Kavachil is probably my number one go-to in our collection.

And it really, my experience with it is it helps to turn off an overactive mind and transition me into an easy sleep.

Ronnie Landis
Amazing. of course, kava is like the peace pipe in the Polynesian Hawaiian culture. It’s basically in their kind of philosophy. It’s like, it’s the way that warring tribes would make peace amongst each other. And they said that you couldn’t actually fight with another while drinking kava. It’s not possible. So they would use that as a way to make peace or as a way to just drop in and

Yeah, and to to relax and reset. So I want to make a mention of that for everyone because no, you know, there’s nobody that could use that, of course, except everybody. We’re going to we’re going to have all that in the show links. And we’re also going to have the links to the products with some kind of discount code that me and Nick put together. And, you know, all the all that for the products will be there in the show link on the website.

And is there anything else that you would like to share with the audience before we transition?

Dr. Nick Berry
Well, a way that people can get engaged and learn more about the world of essential oils and start experimenting in your own home is we offer an alchemy club and our alchemy club invites people to receive various size packages every month to their doorstep and the options include

a wizard alchemy blend, a pure essential oil, an essential oil or ultrasonic tincture, and an exquisite botanical perfume. And so it’s a wide array of different practical applications of working with the different essential oils. The reports that I receive are when people are using them for…

let’s say you have a subscription for three to 12 months, continue to expand your awareness of working with different oils, different plant extracts, different tinctures. And it really is a lesson where you’re teaching and adapting your body and learning, growing and evolving with the relationship you build with these different plants.

And so it’s a really exciting way if you’re botanically curious to deepen your relationship with plants and explore a wide array of different health applications that are really fun and exciting to share with your friends.

Ronnie Landis
Mm hmm. Amazing. Beautiful. I’m glad you mentioned that. And again, we’ll have we’ll have the link in the show notes with all the everything you need to know and where to go. And there’s so much, by the way, for everyone listening, there’s so many more recorded podcasts and content that Nick’s done. If there’s anything that we didn’t go into or we went off kind of on these digressions into other topics, but you’re like, oh, I want to know more about this.

There is tons of incredible podcasts that he’s done with Paul Chek and Wade Lightheart of Biooptimizers, Ben Greenfield. You’re on Josh Trent’s as well, right? Yeah. Their friend Josh Trent, many other incredible, Kyle Kingsbury. I don’t know if you’ve been on Aubrey’s show. If it hasn’t happened, it needs to happen. I’m sure it’s going to happen soon. So there’s a plethora of conversations that you can tune in.

And Nick is really the only person outside of our friend, Illip, but that’s different, I need to get Illip on soon, but that’s a different category. When it comes to essential oils, Nick is the guy. There’s nowhere else you need to go and I certainly don’t really recommend you do. You don’t need to get distracted, this is the source.

Dr. Nick Berry
well thanks Ronnie. I’ve had a lot of joy connecting with you and your listeners today. And do you have any other questions for me?

Ronnie Landis
That’s it. think that’s great for our time and also just for ability to receive in this moment. So, yeah, just super grateful for you, our continuing friendship and look forward to seeing where this all goes.

Dr. Nick Berry
Well, thanks for letting me share more about essential oil wizardry.